I've never played a Rogue before, but my new guild GNOME MY GOD is kind of forcing me to (didnt want a mage, already had a warlock/warr).
Speaking of which, this is a good plug for anyone that wants to reroll a mage on gnomeregan, hit us up :-)
But yeah, how do I build a good PVE rogue? Will 18/33/0 still apply after the review?
Nail Bomb 07-20-2006, 07:45 AM OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING IDIOT CRY MORE ABOUT HAVING TO PLAY A ROGUE YOU WILL SUCK AT IT ANYWAY
If you are going sword i like 20/31 more. that is what i am going to rock until i get another dagger that is worth specing for it. Also i think you will have more fun with that rogue then you think you are going to.
PessimiStick 07-20-2006, 07:58 AM OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING IDIOT CRY MORE ABOUT HAVING TO PLAY A ROGUE YOU WILL SUCK AT IT ANYWAY
If you are going sword i like 20/31 more. that is what i am going to rock until i get another dagger that is worth specing for it. Also i think you will have more fun with that rogue then you think you are going to.
See, unlike you, he actually asked a question in an intelligent manner.
I'd go with 18/33 for PvE, assuming you intend to Raid. If you're just doing small group PvE, then 20/31 is a better choice for combat.
Are you going to be soloing much, or will you always be grouped? PvP at all?
Alarik 07-20-2006, 08:27 AM im considering a HEMO thing opposite of sealfate just to try.. cause that 7 additional dmg from hemo is applied to everyone who attacks it... could be useful... its tough to say
im 31/20 right now, i have shit gear but brutality blade and the oh dalrend... and it works great
Nail Bomb 07-20-2006, 08:30 AM I am hemo right now. During rading its super easy to keep slice and dice going due to how much energy hemo cost to do. Now in the debuff they show how many charges your hemo has so you can keep applying it to the target. you wont top any dps meters with it but its helps out all fo the other melee.
During world pvp and bgs its Fun 1v1. Anymore then one person and You dont have the power in your hits to take them down.
PessimiStick 07-20-2006, 09:19 AM im considering a HEMO thing opposite of sealfate just to try.. cause that 7 additional dmg from hemo is applied to everyone who attacks it... could be useful... its tough to say
im 31/20 right now, i have shit gear but brutality blade and the oh dalrend... and it works great
Hemo is great for 1v1 PvP, but it falls short for PvE/Group PvP. It gives up too much DPS to be effective in those roles, since you can't stunlock outside of 1v1/2v2.
I will say that Seal Fate Hemo might be a little better in 1.12, I haven't played on test this cycle.
Alarik 07-20-2006, 10:41 AM Yes pess im not too sure... i want to try those new sub skills... it may work out... i dunno... 31/8/12 variations and the 31/20 always worked best for me
its a throw up depending on daggers/swords
PessimiStick 07-20-2006, 10:45 AM I would stick with Swords/Maces for levelling, I *hated* daggers while I was levelling. It's doable if you're grouping constantly, but soloing with daggers made me want to fucking kill myself.
Honestly, I'd say 20/31/0 until you get to 60. Once you get to 60 you can decide where you want to go based on what you're doing the most of.
Sensi 07-20-2006, 11:38 AM 17/34/0
very well rounded combat sword spec. unfortunetly, you dont have good stealth anymore but combat rogues dont need stealth really in the first place as much as daggers. also IMP KICK is very very nice.
I don't plan on PVPing and this would be my first raiding character, so 18/33 is sounding good right now
Alarik 07-20-2006, 01:35 PM i am and have been 60 pess :P seal fate is probably my favorite... i may modify what im using now to include the daggers and all that bullshit that will help that once i get an epic dagger.... but brutality blade is MH for a good while :P cant beat the dmg on the SS without going higher tiers
Error|550 07-20-2006, 01:45 PM I would stick with Swords/Maces for levelling, I *hated* daggers while I was levelling. It's doable if you're grouping constantly, but soloing with daggers made me want to fucking kill myself.
Honestly, I'd say 20/31/0 until you get to 60. Once you get to 60 you can decide where you want to go based on what you're doing the most of.
Agreed 100%. Un until 60, and a couple decent daggers, I was 20/31. Now I'm SF with 31/8/12 and after 1.12 will remain with that build.
Daggers when you're leveling up make you want to claw your own eyes out ...
PessimiStick 07-20-2006, 02:22 PM i am and have been 60 pess :P seal fate is probably my favorite... i may modify what im using now to include the daggers and all that bullshit that will help that once i get an epic dagger.... but brutality blade is MH for a good while :P cant beat the dmg on the SS without going higher tiers
Yeah, I use the WS template, so no sigs or anything, thought you were the OP. =p
Surge 07-20-2006, 02:23 PM my pants get wet thinking of SF/hemo
PessimiStick 07-20-2006, 02:33 PM my pants get wet thinking of SF/hemo
SF/Hemo will be a 1v1 *destroyer*.
Something like: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=yheboxtVZZxMe0bh0 o
Looking at it a little more though, http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=yheboxtZZxMe0bGRo is probably better.
Lukeris 07-20-2006, 03:27 PM even though i'm all about pve, i'd feel pretty fucking gimped if i didn't pick up the 2/2 sprint. Playing on a pvp server, that seems like it's almost a requirement.
something like 16/35
20/31/0 or SF Hemo would both probably be good for leveling.
Once you're raiding, if you can get daggers http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogues2/talents.html#none
is very very good.
Error|550 07-20-2006, 07:18 PM Looking at it a little more though, http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=yheboxtZZxMe0bGRo is probably better.
How's this look to you? I'm not a huge Hemo fan and I like the extra 10 energy, particularly as I'm working on collecting "Nightslayer" at the moment:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=yheboxtVoZt0ecc
Definitely more of an SF build, daggers are the weapons of choice, and geared for Ambush as opposed to Backstab.
:D
Ender P. Wiggin 07-21-2006, 05:36 AM My 1.11 build: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=whecoxZG0Ez0Vzxco
My 1.12 build: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=nhezoxZG0Ez0Vzxfo
Standard 5/5/3 cycle is still possible with the 1.12 build, but you cannot be parried/dodged/blocked or otherwise unable to generate a combo point off of sinister strike to pull it off.
EDIT: I'm on a PvP server and do a fair amount of PvP, hence the reason I'm keeping riposte.
{FSC}Godfather 07-21-2006, 08:11 AM im ready for 1.12
I have an aqr/mala in case sword gets a last second buff because its the most fun
I have a servo/warhammer in case maces get a DPS proc over the shitty stun
I have Deathssting/Pugio in case I have to go combat daggers to go dps, i hate the build but gotta do what you gotta do.
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