Warrior 2h fury Raid Dps

So most of the warriors in my guild have specced protection and I am currently 31/20. I've got 1100 ap unbuffed, 5% hit, 25% crit in zerker stance and an ashkandi as my main wep. I usually come in in the top 4-8 in damage using this current spec. I am contemplating switching to 2h fury to maximize PvE dps and was wondering if this would work. At peak I top out at 2100 ap raid buffed and the warrior forums always talk about BT scaling better then MS after 1k ap. So, what do you think?

Edit: I'll be getting an earthstrike in the next week or two.

i wouldn't plan on doing any pvp without MS as a warrior or having another warrior with you.

I am curious about using Slam with a weapon like that, full rage bar and the mob on someone else so you dont lose "casting" time.. just wondering what some end game warriors think about the skill.. i never see anyone talking about but i dont visit the warrior boards anymore so > <

i wouldn't plan on doing any pvp without MS as a warrior or having another warrior with you.

I am curious about using Slam with a weapon like that, full rage bar and the mob on someone else so you dont lose "casting" time.. just wondering what some end game warriors think about the skill.. i never see anyone talking about but i dont visit the warrior boards anymore so > <

I use it as a rage dump when WW and MS are on CD. I get crits from 1600-2k on sundered mobs.

2h fury is gimp for everything really. DW is so much better sustained damage with the right weapons it's not even funny.

2H fury is not gimp for raid DPS.

Yeah he shouldn't get much more dps with 2h fury, but I've seen 2hand fury own in pvp (even though dual wield with lots of AP and +hit is crazy). Here's a cool video I just saw recently comparing the 2 specs in PVP: http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=23446

2h fury is gimp for everything really. DW is so much better sustained damage with the right weapons it's not even funny.

Yea i only like +7% hit max and then crit is gimped or ap. I geuss I should start hoping for some phat 1h's from naxx.

2h fury is gimp for everything really. DW is so much better sustained damage with the right weapons it's not even funny.

Agreed. I've spent months as arms, months as DW fury, months as 2h fury, and months as protection. Try as I might, I still can't find a reason to spec 2h fury.

Slam, ironically, caters more towards the 2h arms bulld than it does the 2h fury build. 2h fury damage cycles are completely fucked up compared to 2h arms or dw fury.

DW Fury is the shiz; period. Basically you become a walking, talking food-processor. My 60 Tauren is a DW Fury spec and even though he has pretty shitty weapons he rips through everything and is usually #2 or #3 in most raids/instances.

Everyone has a "favorite gear list" for this build. Having played this class for a fair amount of time, whatever your off-hand weapon is, get this in your main hand. No arguing and you can just thank me later:

Empyrean Demolisher (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=36240)

I don't have this yet but a buddy does and he tells me this thing procs like crazy. Add +hit gear and "Flurry" and, well, I imagine you can imagine ...

:bigthumb:

P.S. MH enchant needs to be Crusader; OH enchant needs to be +15 agility. No other real way to go as DW Fury.

Edit: Enterred "2h" where I meant "DW" ... I need more coffee ... :(

DW Fury is the shiz; period. Basically you become a walking, talking food-processor. My 60 Tauren is a DW Fury spec and even though he has pretty shitty weapons he rips through everything and is usually #2 or #3 in most raids/instances.

Everyone has a "favorite gear list" for this build. Having played this class for a fair amount of time, whatever your off-hand weapon is, get this in your main hand. No arguing and you can just thank me later:

Empyrean Demolisher (http://www.thottbot.com/?i=36240)

I don't have this yet but a buddy does and he tells me this thing procs like crazy. Add +hit gear and "Flurry" and, well, I imagine you can imagine ...

:bigthumb:

P.S. MH enchant needs to be Crusader; OH enchant needs to be +15 agility. No other real way to go as DW Fury.

Edit: Enterred "2h" where I meant "DW" ... I need more coffee ... :(

Dual Crusader > * for Warriors.

It's not even close.

I have epic'd Warrs for both horde and alliance and I find that WF totem caters more to 2h than DW. So, if you're horde, go 2h. If you're ally, go DW.

And 2h Fury is fine for PVP. I still have an OEB and I rock guys at 28.49% crit in zerk.

As for Slam, it's great if you have the rage to dump, but I usually don't bother. I also dabled in imp. cleave for extra dps, especially on Nef.

As 2h fury with a DTC, I found myself with my thumb up my ass 50% of the time, whereas with a CTS MH and an EoC offhand I'm always able to do something and I'm never at a loss for rage.

how does +9 dmg stack against crusader?

how does +9 dmg stack against crusader?
Horribly.

2h fury + hamstring spam with WF is probably the best DPS in the game, which is probably why they're nerfing WF totem next patch, gg horde.

2h fury isnt so bad, its pretty nice for certain AOE areas.

When I do DPS I actually dual wield DB/BB since I have the +hit to support it (+12 up to +16 if i wanted) however I nabbed an Untamed Blade for pvp fun as well as being a really kickass weapon for when I need to DPS in tanking or shitty DI gear. (I go back n forth on DW/2H in pvp depending on my mood)

also with the UTB proc + crusader up, I reach over 2000 AP self buffed and hit a 2124 bloodthirst crit on another player before.

if you go 17/34 or any variation with the impale line it supports any 2hander and hard hitting 1handers quite nicely.

With an ash'khandi, you need about 2100 sustained AP to have fury beat out MS, not counting the flurry damage (I think, looked at this a long time ago). 2h fury works when your gear is far ahead of your weapon (i.e. your current gear using a zin'rokh). What buffs are you using that you're at 2100 AP? Learning must be pricey.

However, get more hit. Or if you want to really do more damage, get more hit and get an OEB for boss fights. Glancing blows suck.

With an ash'khandi, you need about 2100 sustained AP to have fury beat out MS, not counting the flurry damage (I think, looked at this a long time ago). 2h fury works when your gear is far ahead of your weapon (i.e. your current gear using a zin'rokh). What buffs are you using that you're at 2100 AP? Learning must be pricey.

However, get more hit. Or if you want to really do more damage, get more hit and get an OEB for boss fights. Glancing blows suck.
That's not accurate at all.

Flurry is a *huge* boost in DPS, because it increases your white damage, *and* it increases your rage generation, which you can dump for more damage.

Bloodthirst doesn't have to match MS point for point (even though it can at high enough AP) to make Fury better DPS.

If I were going to commit to 2H Fury, I'd do something like this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=phhxzIbZE0zVMxkVo

slight tweak to pessi's build

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pbhxbIbZE0kVMxoVo

can nab 3/3 imp cleave also but youd have to take out a point from bs and also give up piercing howl

or

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LbhxdhbZE0uVMxoVo

That's not accurate at all.

Flurry is a *huge* boost in DPS, because it increases your white damage, *and* it increases your rage generation, which you can dump for more damage.


Like I said, I don't think it was accounting for flurry. It was a while ago that I was looking at the numbers, but I mainly stuck with MS because I tend to do more tanking/PvP than PvE dps. 31/5/11 +4 is more versatile than any build I could find based on fury.