Critical FT hand

eyecu
01-23-2006, 10:36 AM
couple of things, just started playing a few multis to get my poker gears going again. this was my first ft in awhile, $30 morning nl tourney.

1) how do you feel about the AK min raise after the action, considering the stacks sizes and situation?

2) how do you feel about the TT call by the bb?

they were all weak players and i ended up busting 3 hands after this on a coinflip, but this could have been played a bit different i think.

PokerStars Game #3729746821: Tournament #18469518, Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2006/01/23 - 10:19:20 (ET)
Table '18469518 22' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: derpase (10047 in chips)
Seat 2: BreadLord (11615 in chips)
Seat 3: akshonePon (15057 in chips)
Seat 4: sdg147 (56964 in chips)
Seat 5: beeyoung (52564 in chips)
Seat 6: idolaf (5749 in chips)
Seat 7: FTIBBS (43697 in chips)
Seat 8: osmark (37080 in chips)
Seat 9: brock0791 (44727 in chips)
derpase: posts the ante 100
BreadLord: posts the ante 100
akshonePon: posts the ante 100
sdg147: posts the ante 100
beeyoung: posts the ante 100
idolaf: posts the ante 100
FTIBBS: posts the ante 100
osmark: posts the ante 100
brock0791: posts the ante 100
FTIBBS: posts small blind 1000
osmark: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to beeyoung [Ah Kd]
derpase said, "thx"
brock0791: folds
derpase: raises 7947 to 9947 and is all-in
BreadLord: raises 1568 to 11515 and is all-in
akshonePon: folds
sdg147: folds
beeyoung: raises 7947 to 19462
idolaf: folds
FTIBBS: folds
osmark: calls 17462
*** FLOP *** [8h 2d 4s]
osmark: bets 17518 and is all-in
beeyoung: folds
*** TURN *** [8h 2d 4s] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [8h 2d 4s Ad] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
osmark: shows [Tc Th] (three of a kind, Tens)
BreadLord said, "holy"
osmark collected 15894 from side pot-2
BreadLord: shows [Js Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
BreadLord said, "***"
osmark collected 4704 from side pot-1
derpase: shows [Ks 7h] (high card Ace)
osmark collected 41688 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 62286 Main pot 41688. Side pot-1 4704. Side pot-2 15894. | Rake 0
Board [8h 2d 4s Ad Td]

creat!ve
01-23-2006, 12:17 PM
id have tried to isolate those two stacks by pushing over the top

eyecu
01-23-2006, 12:58 PM
seems like the player was bad enough to call 4 raises with tt, maybe he would call all in as well.

kwolf
01-23-2006, 02:23 PM
I don't really like your play here. Your M is 13, so you are not that desperate. I think you are right in thinking that MP1 (derpase) is moving in with anything (his M is 2), but the all-in bet bet by MP2 (BreadLord) should be enough to get you off the hand ... your AK is probably a big favorite against the first raiser heads-up, but almost certainly a 45-55 underdog to the second hand and against both hands at the same time, you are even weaker. In this spot with an M over 10 and the action in-front of you, I would play only AA or KK and push all-in to help ensure no action behind me.

Given the pot odds for the BB (2.5-1), I think his call is incorrect ... at this point he has to know that his only chance to win is by hitting a set and you have a stack big enough to knock him out, so any overcards on the flop spell doom for him.

cacophobia
01-23-2006, 02:54 PM
1. what is the point of the minraise? turn off brain, put stack all-in.
2. the T-T play is awful.

Yoda
01-23-2006, 03:24 PM
1. what is the point of the minraise? turn off brain, put stack all-in.
2. the T-T play is awful.

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