i still say SNGs are not real poker

<eyecu> Dealt to beeyoung [9c As]
<eyecu> BlueDawgg said, "n steal"
<eyecu> beeyoung: raises 400 to 600
<eyecu> Collotto: calls 600
<eyecu> BlueDawgg: folds
<eyecu> (SSD): folds
<eyecu> *** FLOP *** [Ac 5c 7c]
<eyecu> Collotto said, "Thanks"
<eyecu> beeyoung: bets 2140 and is all-in
<eyecu> Collotto: calls 2140
<eyecu> beeyoung said, "hrm"
<eyecu> Collotto said, "Damn"
<eyecu> *** TURN *** [Ac 5c 7c] [6c]
<eyecu> Collotto said, "Nice hand"
<eyecu> *** RIVER *** [Ac 5c 7c 6c] [4c]
<eyecu> beeyoung said, "..."
<eyecu> *** SHOW DOWN ***
<eyecu> beeyoung: shows [9c As] (a flush, Ace high)
<eyecu> Collotto: shows [8c 8h] (a straight flush, Four to Eight)
<eyecu> Collotto said, "Wow"
<eyecu> Collotto collected 5880 from pot
<eyecu> BlueDawgg said, "oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
<eyecu> Collotto said, "gg"

Pokerstars does that shit all the time. It feels rigged sometimes. Sorta how you know scratch and win tickets are rigged - you get 2 of the 3 symbols you need, but not the third. Sorta string you along.

yeah we gotta fight the powers at be

:) It's just funny how often the best hand is decimated on the river. It happens far too often, but of course, I have not observed sufficient hands to say that for sure.

yeah its rigged ok

The randomizer of poker sites are not really "random". For something to be truly "random" it has to occur in the "real world".

except, quite often the randomizers get their random numbers from random real world events, so they're random for all intents and purposes, even though its true, a computer cannot generate a truly random number.

While it sucks to see hands like this, simply realize that they happen all the time, in casinos, homes and online. Nothing to do with being rigged at all. And thus ends my tirade.

It's a thousand-to-one shot ... play enough hands and you are going to see this type of bullshit. What's really amazing is his call on the flop. I would not be sad to see this guy at my table again. :)

The randomizer of poker sites are not really "random". For something to be truly "random" it has to occur in the "real world".
its more random than joe schmo shuffling the deck at your home game

its more random than joe schmo shuffling the deck at your home game
I think that actually might be the problem. I think they go overboard with their randomness so weird things tend to happen more often than would with a physical shuffle.

I think it would be an interesting study to collect like 10 million hand histories from PS and build a program that parsed it and checked how far off it is from theoretical probabilities. I think it would be damn close, but who knows.

I think that actually might be the problem. I think they go overboard with their randomness so weird things tend to happen more often than would with a physical shuffle.

I think it would be an interesting study to collect like 10 million hand histories from PS and build a program that parsed it and checked how far off it is from theoretical probabilities. I think it would be damn close, but who knows.

I'm willing to bet that if you did this, you'd see just as many live oddities as you would 'net.

I thought they did check how random their shuffle was? Absolute gave me a form email to that effect, their shuffle is audited.

Thats a really bastard though LOL, Ive only got 2 since Ive been playing online, 1 royal flush, and I would say not more than a hundred fh.

I think too you see this kind of stuff because online, people tend to call, push, more agressive then someone sitting with those thousands of chips in front of them.

you see it online because look how many people are playing online, look how easy it is to communicate a hand like this to hundreds or even thousands of people in less time than it would normally take to tell one person, and look how many more hands each individual player online sees VS live.

It's no clue why these bad beats seem to spring up more often online. It's because they do. I'd be that there are more hands dealt online in an hour than all live games combined in a day. In fact it probably isn't even close.

yeah ps rigged a SNG where they already have there rake when the tourny begins

you see it online because look how many people are playing online, look how easy it is to communicate a hand like this to hundreds or even thousands of people in less time than it would normally take to tell one person, and look how many more hands each individual player online sees VS live.

Exactly