A2 spades - Slow play disaster.

Thrakesh
01-02-2006, 12:18 PM
I'm at work, so I don't have access to the hand history.

Tournament, blinds 10/20 - I am big blind

Hole cards: Ace, 2 of Spades.

Action: I am raised by the small blind. I re-raise to 5x big blind. 2 other callers.

Flop: Ace (red i think), 10 spades, Jack spades.

Action: Small blind checks, I raise 2x bb. 2 other callers.

Turn: nine spades.

Action: checked to me - I decide to slow play. I check.

River: Jack Spades

Action: Checked to me - I bet half the pot - I am hoping that someone thinks I am stealing.

sb raises me. I put him all in, he calls.

He has q8 of spades. end of tourny for me.

I should have never let him see the river so cheaply, but do you think he would have called a large raise on the turn?

CjBurden
01-02-2006, 12:45 PM
you were fucked either way. Obviously he's going to be calling with the flush on the turn.

AgnoStick
01-02-2006, 01:44 PM
so 2 guys have already entered the pot, the sb raises, and you decide to come over the top out of position with a shit hand.

ok.

Thrakesh
01-02-2006, 01:55 PM
Well, I wouldn't call it shit. I will admit to playing badly.

I hit my pair right away, and then I had the nut flush. Just didn't see/didn't handle the straight flush possibility.

CjBurden
01-02-2006, 03:49 PM
so 2 guys have already entered the pot, the sb raises, and you decide to come over the top out of position with a shit hand.

ok.


Actually if the raise came from the SB, he couldn't be out of position. However your point is valid, and probably the only important thing to say about this particular hand. Your reraise in this spot is absolutely wretched. The best you can hope for is isolation against the small blind. However with a hand that plays well in multiway pots (nut flush) you don't really need to isolate, especially coupled with a hand that plays really badly in a heads up pot. Additionally you reopen the betting to the small blind who could just push a lot of chips in and leave you with having to fold up 5 bets without a flop when you could have just called for cheaper and made a decision on the flop.

The rest of this hand is useless to really analyze without knowing what kind of player the other guy was. Is he the kind of guy who will bet when checked to? If so yeah maybe its a good idea to check the nut flush since you only have to worry about the boat coming on the river. You'll note that I didn't say you have to worry about the straight flush. Well, you don't. It isn't common enough for you to consider.

Pip
01-03-2006, 07:34 AM
i think you were fucked either way playing with these cheaters
a jack spades on the flop and then another one on the river should have tipped you off.

Buk Naked
01-03-2006, 07:43 PM
i think you were fucked either way playing with these cheaters
a jack spades on the flop and then another one on the river should have tipped you off.

:lol:

I didn't pick that up at first.

If I have the nut flush on an unpaired board, I'm going broke 99% of the time to a straight flush.