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triple
12-18-2005, 10:17 AM
I have 2 30s from way back at launch.. a couple 15s.. but im starting fresh.

gnome rogue, any suggestions?

Chimera
12-18-2005, 11:17 AM
get pink hair

Surge
12-18-2005, 11:23 AM
get pink hair

and ponytails

shepherd
12-18-2005, 11:56 AM
roll a warrior

PessimiStick
12-18-2005, 08:37 PM
Castrate yourself for

A) Choosing team easymode.

B) Rolling a fucking gnome.

Uncle Slappy
12-18-2005, 08:50 PM
Castrate yourself for

A) Choosing team easymode.

B) Rolling a fucking gnome.

gnomes kick ass

rogues do too

so gnome+rogue=double ass-kickery

Thrakesh
12-18-2005, 09:10 PM
gnome warriors are where it is at - the horde won't know what hit em when your arc reaper tears them a new hole.

shepherd
12-18-2005, 09:56 PM
gnome warriors are where it is at - the horde won't know what hit em when your arc reaper tears them a new hole.
lol arc reaper

AcidBurn
12-18-2005, 10:34 PM
Why is alliance easy mode?

Ztir
12-18-2005, 11:08 PM
easier quests, more zones for leveling, everyone rolls alliance so it's easier to find a group, ect ect ect

JohnnyX
12-19-2005, 12:49 AM
Leveling is equally easy on both sides.

Easier to find a group depends on the server and the class you roll.

Heck I think Horde has some advantages because nobody on Alliance goes to shimmering flats or thousand needles ever.

gj making things up though

PessimiStick
12-19-2005, 09:53 AM
Leveling is equally easy on both sides.

Easier to find a group depends on the server and the class you roll.

Heck I think Horde has some advantages because nobody on Alliance goes to shimmering flats or thousand needles ever.

gj making things up though
Ever fought Nef?

Fear ward *completely* trivializes a difficult fight for horde.

The last Alliance guild on my server that made it to Nef killed him on their FIRST ATTEMPT at Stage 2.

That's not even mentioning that the Shaman call is about 3x worse than the Paladin call.

Also, Paladin blessings are a huge advantage. Take 3 or 4 Paladins, and everyone has any buff they could want. You'd need about 12-16 Shamans to accomplish the same thing.

I like Horde, but to say that calling Alliance easy mode is "making things up" is just assinine.

Surge
12-19-2005, 10:23 AM
Ever fought Nef?

Fear ward *completely* trivializes a difficult fight for horde.

The last Alliance guild on my server that made it to Nef killed him on their FIRST ATTEMPT at Stage 2.

That's not even mentioning that the Shaman call is about 3x worse than the Paladin call.

Also, Paladin blessings are a huge advantage. Take 3 or 4 Paladins, and everyone has any buff they could want. You'd need about 12-16 Shamans to accomplish the same thing.

I like Horde, but to say that calling Alliance easy mode is "making things up" is just assinine.


don't forget BoS ;)

TF_Grungir
12-19-2005, 10:41 AM
For a rogue, why wouldnt you roll a night elf to get the +agi racial bonus?

PessimiStick
12-19-2005, 11:17 AM
For a rogue, why wouldnt you roll a night elf to get the +agi racial bonus?
Actually, from a purely "DPS in Raids" standpoint, the best rogues in the game are Human. Combat is > Daggers for sustained DPS, and +5 swords (+9 with Maladath) is a *HUGE* boost on raid mobs. I vastly underestimated the effects of +weapon skill until recently, but I would never roll anything other than a Human rogue if I were to go alliance.

Sojourn
12-19-2005, 11:39 AM
Ever fought Nef?

Fear ward *completely* trivializes a difficult fight for horde.

The last Alliance guild on my server that made it to Nef killed him on their FIRST ATTEMPT at Stage 2.

That's not even mentioning that the Shaman call is about 3x worse than the Paladin call.

Also, Paladin blessings are a huge advantage. Take 3 or 4 Paladins, and everyone has any buff they could want. You'd need about 12-16 Shamans to accomplish the same thing.

I like Horde, but to say that calling Alliance easy mode is "making things up" is just assinine.

I'm not sure I agree that fear ward trivializes it. It certainly makes it easier, though. You can stance dance with an OT easily, and having done it with and without fear ward I can say this with experience.

Obviously the Paladin call is easier to deal with, but I'd also argue that fights like Razorgore and Phase 1 Nef is easier with Shamans.

I won't deny that I think Alliance has an advantage in BWL, but I -don't- think it is as large as many people claim. The only fight that I'd care about BoS is Broodlord. Beyond that it's not necessary if you do the encounters properly. However, I definitely do think BoS is an advantage for learning encounters, and if Horde have any reason to complain that's the big one.

PessimiStick
12-19-2005, 11:56 AM
I'm not sure I agree that fear ward trivializes it. It certainly makes it easier, though. You can stance dance with an OT easily, and having done it with and without fear ward I can say this with experience.

Obviously the Paladin call is easier to deal with, but I'd also argue that fights like Razorgore and Phase 1 Nef is easier with Shamans.

I won't deny that I think Alliance has an advantage in BWL, but I -don't- think it is as large as many people claim. The only fight that I'd care about BoS is Broodlord. Beyond that it's not necessary if you do the encounters properly. However, I definitely do think BoS is an advantage for learning encounters, and if Horde have any reason to complain that's the big one.
Well, seeing as I've never played Nef on Alliance, the only thing I have to go on are the people I know that have, and both of them said "wow, this fight sucks for Horde".

How can you say fear ward doesn't trivialize it though? The *only* time anyone (that isn't a rogue, cause sometimes the port is mean) dies on Nef is when he Shadowflames during an uncontrolled fear. Removing that danger from the fight pretty much makes him Ebonroc without buffet and without Shadow....

Sojourn
12-19-2005, 12:02 PM
Well, seeing as I've never played Nef on Alliance, the only thing I have to go on are the people I know that have, and both of them said "wow, this fight sucks for Horde".

How can you say fear ward doesn't trivialize it though? The *only* time anyone (that isn't a rogue, cause sometimes the port is mean) dies on Nef is when he Shadowflames during an uncontrolled fear. Removing that danger from the fight pretty much makes him Ebonroc without buffet and without Shadow....

Well, I suppose from that perspective.. yes. It trivializes it. But the fight itself is pretty trivial to start with once you get past Phase 1.

I wasn't trying to defend Alliance. In BWL I would definitely take Alliance over Horde when you look at overall difficulty. Just the same.. I think some fights in BWL are easier on Horde too, and I don't think it's fair to overlook that.

PessimiStick
12-19-2005, 12:08 PM
Well, I suppose from that perspective.. yes. It trivializes it. But the fight itself is pretty trivial to start with once you get past Phase 1.

I wasn't trying to defend Alliance. In BWL I would definitely take Alliance over Horde when you look at overall difficulty. Just the same.. I think some fights in BWL are easier on Horde too, and I don't think it's fair to overlook that.
The only fight in the entire *game* that's easier for Horde is Razor...

Hell the devs have come right out and said that Pallys were designed to be the easiest class in the game, it only follows that Alliance is intended to be easier than Horde. =\

Shoddy
12-19-2005, 12:28 PM
I like Horde, but to say that calling Alliance easy mode is "making things up" is just assinine.
He was responding to easier quests, more zones for levelling, easier to find groups assertions.