Vael timer messed up:

Apparently now Vael's 1 hour timer before he despawns is started when you zone in to the instance, not when you engage him.

Last night SN took down Razorgore for the first time on our 5th try ever :) We wiped on Vael a good few times before calling it a night just a bit before he despawned.

Today somebody said that he was logged out in BWL and logged in to a friendly Vael, so we get our 40 in there tonight and he is nowhere to be found.

I looked around on forums/irc and apparently his timer starts on zone in now :|

Just a warning.

it seems to only affect guilds that killed razorgore and not vael at the time the patch went through, like mine :D we went and raided zg instead...