AHHAHAAH ROGUES....AHAHAHAHAAHAHAH A. HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Bodom
09-09-2005, 03:22 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/sawhatphoto/healdagger.jpg

better backstab/ambush than high warlords and barman shanker


:rofl:

TseTse
09-09-2005, 03:38 AM
not bad :D

HUNTER LOOT!

(btw, did EJ kill hakkar tonight? i was on test and saw EJ peeps in there, folks were saying EJ was at hakkar)

Bodom
09-09-2005, 04:06 AM
we're at hakkar. working on him tomorrow. the boss beforehand is pretty tuff.

AlphaNeo
09-09-2005, 06:28 AM
bodom, i don't want to bring up chrom bullshit here and i know you guys aren't proud of your chrom kill, etc, but what did chrom drop?

PessimiStick
09-09-2005, 09:14 AM
Actually, HW Razor is still better, but that thing will hit quite a bit harder in PvP than Perdition's does, and that's just sad...

I know I'll be grabbing one for PvP.

Slobax
09-09-2005, 09:30 AM
what's the big deal about this lowbie dagger :shrug:

FalseMyrmidon
09-09-2005, 10:16 AM
what's the big deal about this lowbie dagger :shrug:
Speed 2.20

Feannag
09-09-2005, 10:52 AM
That is one sword-like dagger, and MH? That has to be some kind of error Blizzard missed making that item.

Java
09-09-2005, 11:17 AM
where does that drop?

Slobax
09-09-2005, 12:35 PM
Speed 2.20
and correct me if i'm wrong, but the high warlord dagger is 2.00 with 18 more DPS :shrug:

sekdar
09-09-2005, 01:41 PM
and correct me if i'm wrong, but the high warlord dagger is 2.00 with 18 more DPS :shrug:

you're correct, but this is considerably more attainable for your average player, and the higher speed gives a higher damage multiplier if you have a very high attack power (harder backstabs, etc).

JohnnyX
09-09-2005, 02:06 PM
This is simplified, as I don't feel like looking everything up to be certain, but the damage is straight out multiplied by the weapon speed. Rogue moves aren't affected by weapon speed, they're just bonus hits if you have the energy to execute them. So while your normal melee is slowed down, and that DPS is lower, the Ambush, Backstab, or Sinister Strike is affected by the weapon speed on a 1:1 ratio. So a 1.00 speed weapon would hit for half as much on a special move as a 2.00 speed weapon.

PessimiStick
09-09-2005, 03:39 PM
I am saddened that it was just an error, that thing would have been ownsauce for anyone that's not High Warlord.

:sadface:

Dyno
09-09-2005, 05:29 PM
God Blizzard is stupid.

Bodom
09-09-2005, 05:53 PM
its being changed

likely it was originally a 2.20 speed sword until blizzard realized only pallies could use that and they made it a dagger so shamans/druids/priests could use it but they didnt change the speed

and yes while your overall DPS would be lower...your backstabs and ambushes with this 2.20 speed dagger would be equal to perditions blade or higher

Bodom
09-09-2005, 05:54 PM
Claw of Cromaggus
Netherwind Mantle
Dragonstalkers Spaulders
Angelista's Grasp

AlphaNeo
09-09-2005, 06:03 PM
nice, that claw rocks

Nehi
09-09-2005, 06:44 PM
luckily you corrected yourself before i saw this, theyre changing the weapon speed before it goes live, otherwise that would be a really stupid thing to do on their part.

Bodom
09-09-2005, 07:24 PM
i knew it was getting changed i just wanted to laugh at rogues =[]

Lukeris
09-11-2005, 04:40 PM
Remember when all the pvp rewards were 2.2 speed?

Yeah, it's just blizzard being stupid and not changing the default weapon speed.