Wow, just wow (never seen this before)

Yoda
07-07-2005, 12:14 PM
I realize this might be common, but I'm just in aww. This all happened at our 2&4 home game last night. We have a group of rotating 12-15 players that show up and play 6 or 7 handed hold-em. Anyways. I don't think I've ever been read so well in my entire life.

Dealt pocket Kings and limp in and am in with the blinds. Flop comes QsQc2h. I bet $10 into the $12 pot and get one call. Then the King of hearts flops on the turn. The guy checks it to me and I bet another $25 into the $32 pot. The guy within 5 seconds says, "I fold" and flips over Ah-Qh. The entire table is stunned that he would lay down trip queens and the nut flush draw.

A couple of hands later, I take a bad beat from someone at the table and am slightly on tilt and call the big blind with 5c10c. The flop falls Kc8c6c. I check the flop and am raised $4 (tiny raise), I throw in the $4 with out much interest. The turn comes Ah. This time I bet $20 out trying to look like I'm stealing the pot. And he folds again and flips over AcKd! Folds top two pair plus the nut flush draw! At this point I can't believe that he got away from that.

Same night a couple hands later, he calls with King high on a board that read

Ac Jc 7h 10c 2c

To beat someone's Queen high bluff, without a club mind you. I've never seen anything like that.

Anyways, I ended up up for the night, but man it was freaky.

Jg
07-07-2005, 02:19 PM
Why da fuk would you lay dat down!? You shuld hav pid me off, dat one? WHY DA FUK DID YOU LAY DAT DOWN?!

cancer
07-07-2005, 02:24 PM
maybe you're not as good as you think you are. :shrug:

Mystro
07-07-2005, 02:40 PM
maybe you're easy to read at the table?
it's not really easy to comment on except for the fact that you were exhibiting the common "weak means strong" tell, specfically in "throwing your chips in without much interest" and then following with a bet on the turn

Yoda
07-07-2005, 03:10 PM
I don't know how someone can detect that much strength and lay something down like that. I know I'm not the greatest player in the world, but I hold my own. I guess I've just never been around people who make that kinds of reads. Most people that I play with make general reads, like about strength or weakness, not about the exact two cards you hold.

Jg
07-07-2005, 03:19 PM
I played with a buddy that thought he was the shit we had 18 people playing so we had 3 tables, he took all the money at one table, literally ALL of it. At the final table he had nearly 8 to 1 in chips, he had to hold it in his hat it was so much.

But he was the only guy I have ever seen a noticable tell on, he would rub his goatee, if he didn't have shit and also below his nose. EVERYTIME! i didn't think someone could do that type of a pattern consistently throughout a tournament. I had to dump to him twice to make sure I was correct.

When it got to the final 3, my best friend, him, and me. I would always tell my friend to go all in when the guy touched his face. And sometimes he would call and lose or he would just fold.

Granted that is an asshole thing to do, but the guy had an insane amount of chips and I couldn't beat him alone. All in all he finished in 3rd and I went on to win.

I told him afterwards how I knew.

Your descriptions are an extreme and I wouldn't fold a set of Qs with Ace kicker on a hunch just cuz the guy didn't touch his face. But some people do have obvious tells, maybe when you have an insane hand you do something you don't know about.

Yoda
07-07-2005, 03:29 PM
It must be something like that =/. I'll bug my friends into telling me but I don't think they are into telling. We usually only share stuff when we go on road trips or are playing in large tournaments.

Jg
07-07-2005, 03:37 PM
I dunno, only thing I can think of that would let him know you have that kind of hand is maybe if you shake a crazy amount, or if your breathe really hard. People look at your chest to see how hard to breathe to justify what kind of hand you have sometimes.

Yoda
07-07-2005, 03:57 PM
I dunno I've been playing a lot of poker and I've eliminated most of those obvious tells. The other thing that was odd was that I am usually considered a fairly loose player and I move a lot of chips, betting the way I did was nothing new, I'd made the same kind of bets all night.

Mystro
07-07-2005, 04:57 PM
that means there was definetly some sort of body tells that you weren't aware of