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Climax 05-26-2005, 02:01 AM So I'm level 60, and have been for some time :P Although I have not yet had a guild that can constantly raid and whatnot (hoping that will change soon =D)
But anywho, atm I have about 3650 life or something, 20%crit, 18-19% dodge and 650 attack power (cant play atm so just estimates:p).
Im wondering how high other rogues seem to go as far as life is concerned before they put all their items into agi/crit/AP.
If I went fully stamina as my main stat I could probably get into 4k life, but I personally think it would be a waste when i could get other stats/damage instead.
What are other peoples opinions?
Decepti|<on 05-26-2005, 03:54 AM going all stamina is just dumb
Climax 05-26-2005, 04:35 AM I meant as the main stat. Which *can* still leave room for high agi or whatever your other stat wants to be...
PessimiStick 05-26-2005, 08:39 AM 3096 HP, 23.69% crit, 802 Attack Power, Dodge is trash.
Zephir 05-26-2005, 12:32 PM http://reign.autoaim.com/profiles/char.php?name=Flart&server=Arthas
At least for me ,rogues are dmg dealers, so thats what i try to maximize. 30 % crit (with 3 dagger spec)
I don't get your build, Zeph.
It appears you want to be a dagger rogue, which are based on burst damage, but you get Dual Wield specialization? A talent that's based on sustained combat?
And deflection is a waste. If you're a dagger rogue, you should be focusing on talents that involve you being behind your target (where he can't swing at you anyway). Improved gouge is a lifesaver.
Seal fate is definately the way you want to go if you want to maximize your damage.
On our guild raids, seal fate rogues are second to none on overall damage, by a long shot. And I'm sure I don't have to tell anyone how much damage SF rogues can do in pvp in less than 5 seconds.
Bodom 05-26-2005, 01:30 PM ok ill pull together some stats. My rogue is 31/20/0 specced. full on combat rogue. im using Cho'Rush mainhand and Dal'Rends Tribal Guardian offhand. Within a week and a half i expect to have an empyrean demolisher.
ok. here are the stats for my normal gear:
3713hp
20.15% crit
23.41% dodge
600 atk power
stats for raid gear (MC/onyxia) thats incomplete (missing fire res boots):
3693hp
60 fire resist
16.93% crit
22.19% dodge
612 atk power
TonyElTigre 05-26-2005, 02:10 PM dam bodom you got the malganis on lock down
Joemomma5000 05-26-2005, 02:48 PM ok ill pull together some stats. My rogue is 31/20/0 specced. full on combat rogue. im using Cho'Rush mainhand and Dal'Rends Tribal Guardian offhand. Within a week and a half i expect to have an empyrean demolisher.
ok. here are the stats for my normal gear:
3713hp
20.15% crit
23.41% dodge
600 atk power
stats for raid gear (MC/onyxia) thats incomplete (missing fire res boots):
3693hp
60 fire resist
16.93% crit
22.19% dodge
612 atk power
So no blade flurry or weapon spec??
LOL Internet 05-26-2005, 03:55 PM I'm specced 30/8/13 (Ambush/backstab)
18% dodge
16% crit
600 ATK power
3600ish HP
I have shitty gear for the next week or two until I can get more of my PVP set.
PessimiStick 05-26-2005, 04:49 PM I don't know how you guys can be happy with 600ish AP for PvE.
Zeph I guess has an excuse in that he at least has 30% crit, but the rest of you....
Climax 05-26-2005, 10:39 PM stats for raid gear (MC/onyxia) thats incomplete (missing fire res boots):
3693hp
60 fire resist
16.93% crit
22.19% dodge
612 atk power
Ive been told alot and seen people say its alot better to have lots of stam than it is to have fire resist, as its not worth it under about 150?
And PessimiStick, I havent been able to gather all the great stuff I want yet :P
Ive been looking at builds, was very heavy Assasination specced, with stun locks, but now that they're being screwed at the patch I went and ran BRD for my Shanker and respecced something like, 30/2/19.
Been looking at making some more builds, but now you say SF is so good in raids I might have to stick with it. I havent yet had a build without it :$
Ive been looking at builds, was very heavy Assasination specced, with stun locks, but now that they're being screwed at the patch I went and ran BRD for my Shanker and respecced something like, 30/2/19.
Seal fate is a waste without Improved Backstab.
BlueCream 05-26-2005, 11:56 PM ok ill pull together some stats. My rogue is 31/20/0 specced. full on combat rogue. im using Cho'Rush mainhand and Dal'Rends Tribal Guardian offhand. Within a week and a half i expect to have an empyrean demolisher.
ok. here are the stats for my normal gear:
3713hp
20.15% crit
23.41% dodge
600 atk power
stats for raid gear (MC/onyxia) thats incomplete (missing fire res boots):
3693hp
60 fire resist
16.93% crit
22.19% dodge
612 atk power
OMG SWORD/MACE FAG :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol:
Son of Mothra 05-27-2005, 12:04 AM http://reign.autoaim.com/profiles/char.php?name=Flart&server=Arthas
At least for me ,rogues are dmg dealers, so thats what i try to maximize. 30 % crit (with 3 dagger spec)
that is one ugly ass build
3.7k hp
22% crit
19% dodge
723 ap
cookie cutter 21/8/22, shanker on softies and krol on plate
Metropolis 05-27-2005, 12:33 AM I'm on Tichondrius.
30\8\13 SF, imp backstab, imp ambush etc
3500 hp, 24-25% dodge, 750 ap, 20.11% crit.
I got Bloodfang Hood, Gloves and Pants and a Gutgore Ripper\Heartseeker (will have CHT in a few weeks) for weapons.
I regularly hit cloth for 1700-1800 ambushes and can backstab for up to about 1450 or so. I'm working on getting the Girdle of beastial fury, baron cape and bonescraper to boost my ap some more but at this point it doesn't matter much. I've 2 shotted priests and mages on many occasions even unbuffed and when I roll with a warrior giving me battle shout and a shaman dropping grace\str I just do obscene damage.
Bodom 05-27-2005, 12:47 AM 1. sta is probably better. but as it stands all the equipment i wear for fire resist has lots of stamina anyway. to be honest except for 1 or 2 pieces my fire res gear is just as good as a "sta gear" set i could put together
2. i dont have blade fury or a weapon spec because atm im using swords...later ill be using mace/sword
3. id love to be a dagger rogue but the fact is I can have a great epic weapon, the empyrean demolisher, practically handed to me. my rogue is an alt. we have 5-7 rogues with empyrean demolishers. im gonna be one of hte last to nab one if i so choose. there are still a lot of rogues, there are a chunk of rogues going for the daggers in MC. its practical to take an easy epic mace than wait out on our crappy lucky for a dagger.
seal fate is pretty sweet with swords too. but yeah itd be even deadlier with imp bs for the increased crit chance.
Climax 05-27-2005, 01:18 AM Oooh, too bad it's not Nightslayer Metropolis, havent seen what exactly they're doing/done to Bloodfang, but i know the shoulders gloves helmet rock for Nightslayer :o
I really like SF - even though i mainly use swords, it's really noticable.
It'd no doubt take one of the epic daggers to completely change me, which doesnt seem likely for a while =(
I can get up to about 1500+ with just the shanker and nothing great for armor, really want to start getting some new gear this coming week.
Off the top of my head, this is my gear:
Eye of rend
Will of the martyr
Shadowcraft spaulders
Stoneskin gargoyle cape
Shadowcraft tunic
Shadowcraft bracers
knight lieutenenats leather gloves
shadowcraft belt
shadowcraft pants
knight lieutenenats boots
painweaver band
band of flesh
blackhand's breadth
argent dawn commish (goh!)
my weapons are keris of zul serak and bonescraper in teh offhand, gorewood bow as the ranged.. i'm specced 21/8/22 complete dagger rogue.
3.7hp
~30% crit rate (in MC... way different when soloing)
mid-600 attack power
the above is not exact, but as accurate as i can do off the top of my yhead.
Climax 05-27-2005, 02:22 AM I've got something along the lines of
Ragefury Eyepatch (+8 stam) [ http://thottbot.com/?i=3664 ]
Will of the martyr [ http://thottbot.com/?i=17203 ]
Random green shoulders of +12 agi/stam (i think its 12)
Stoneskin Gargoyle Cape (+3 agi) [ http://thottbot.com/?i=13816 ]
Cadaverous Armor (+100hp) [ http://thottbot.com/?i=20252 ]
Random Green bracers of 11 stam, some agi and two int or something (+7 stam)
Devilsaur Gauntlets (+7agi) [ http://thottbot.com/?i=5111 ]
Serpentine Sash [ http://thottbot.com/?i=5546 ]
Cadaverous Leggings [ http://thottbot.com/?i=9437 ]
Shadowcraft Boots (+7 stam)[ http://thottbot.com/?i=19203 ]
Then Masons Fsomething ring
Band on pentinent or something
Blackhands breadth
and my last trinket is swapped between all the other four ive got
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