T:V the tribes killer

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EX4R KUN
12-02-2004, 12:45 AM
so far t:v isnt that successful... so i'd refrain from using that as an arguing point.


actually that was my point. :|

Karma Police
12-02-2004, 12:54 AM
where are ZOD and Zodd when you need them? And i don't mean a mod... i fall asleep every night wishing someone from the community could stand up and lead this bunch of sheep (yet intelligent ones when it comes to game development) to freedom and some utopian form of Tribes... i know it's out there... T1 was awesome... T2 came as close to heaven as i'll ever get (at its peak)... and well... somewhere out there, someone has the right idea to take the game beyond what T2 ever was...

Wherever that person is, PLEASE step up and help... you'll be idolized by this community... and have a small fortune if you truely produce the game right!

?B-MAN
12-02-2004, 01:30 AM
The most accurate review yet from the perspective of someone that actually played Tribes a lot.

http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/tribes_vengeance/Default.asp

hardcampa
12-02-2004, 01:32 AM
The most accurate review yet from the perspective of someone that actually played Tribes a lot.

http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/tribes_vengeance/Default.asp

Not. He's just as reluctant to adjust to the new way T:V works as all the other whiners.

armagedda
12-02-2004, 02:12 AM
I don't get why so many people compare T:V to T1. It may have fast skiing, but it's a totally different (Tribes) game.

yea no shazbot, my guess is theyre mostly pissed of t2 players looking for a scapegoat to blame

Arim
12-02-2004, 09:11 AM
Quit whining about people whining. This was my first post since the game came out and as a fan and player from the beginning I think im entitled to voice my opinion at least once.

In resply to your whine though. Do you really think the only things they took out were the command screen and the spider clamp turret??? Time to go back and look again and YES in matches the two things you mentioned were used extensively.

As a capper that command screen was my link to what the team was doing and I used every button on the thing constantly. Pilots, captains and engineer's, if they strove to be better than the rest, did as well.

This game may suit you but the server numbers suggest you are in the minority my friend. I'm not being defensive or offensive when I say this either but stating it as a matter of fact.

For turret monkeys being able to be creative with your defense and come up with new tactics was what gave the game life and staved off monotony. One of my best friends lived for making a wicked sensor-net and I will tell you, it made a WORLD of difference. To him this game has no place at all and he like myself loved tribes above all other games.

Every thing you knock I will easily counter-knock and the success of T:V will back my words.

If a slimmed down version is what some people want that is an easy thing to do once you can offer the rest of the people what they expect of the successor to T2.
Sorry if I came off as whining to you. My purpose was only to try and give my theory as to why some of the game elements are removed. Some not all, they probably wouldn't use that reasoning to explain why the dumbed skiing down. I never even used clamp turrets as an example. I love how you are talking about single people to counter my argument. If you said something like here is a demo of a pub where everyone was using waypoints and setting sensors up, showed me a lot of those from different servers at different times, then you would be countering what I was trying to say. I was by no means stating that I was the only one who ever used the CC.

piecemaker
12-02-2004, 10:30 AM
Not. He's just as reluctant to adjust to the new way T:V works as all the other whiners.

hardcampa, i start thinking u r stupid beyond belief.
noone plays this effing game, and thats not because they cant adujust to the game.
I am tempted to join a server with you and then you show me of what you are capable to do, because u sound like a 14 year old child not getting that "his" game failes miserably and therefor all the others must be stupid.

Show me how you can adapt ingame and then i show you how bad u are when it comes to skill.

because as u pointed out clearly some weeks ago in euroforums, all players who cant adapt or dont like the game need skillz.hahaha.

javajeff
12-02-2004, 11:04 AM
I play this game every day, and think it is loads of fun. I am 37 years old. T:V is a great game deserving of great reviews. The low player count is due to other big FPS games competing for the consumer dollar. The lower price of T:V should encourage more players to pick it up.

For people that have never played Tribes 1 or 2, they will enjoy T:V and the community should grow.

Regards,

javajeff

BitRaiser
12-02-2004, 11:18 AM
Interesting note:

Of my old Tribes playing buddies that hated T:V and swore they would never pick it up, 3 outta those 5 have now bought it. Of the remaining 2, one is physically impaired and since the usful support roles are limited in T:V he just doesn't feel he can keep up (he's got WoW to keep him busy tho), and the other is just flat broke.

What does this mean?
:shrug:
Nuttun much. Just interesting.

Pachacutec
12-02-2004, 11:26 AM
yeah we're experiencing the exact same thing bit.
kinda like oops, we might not need to recruit.

BitRaiser
12-02-2004, 11:35 AM
Heehee, yeah, kinda funny eh?

It's worth mentioning that I'm a convert myself.
I HATED the sound of the development. I cursed the day that VUG announced that their new Tribes game would be focused on Speed and sports like style. I moaned and groaned openly during the open beta. Then the demo came out and I was all like "wait a minute... I'm having fun here. What gives??". The more I played the more I found myself having a good time.

Now I'm at the point where I still think it's got some issues and still isn't the game I was dreaming of for a follow up to T2, but I see the problems as NOT being insermountable. Mostly, it's the maps that are bugging me these days, but I've allready been playing on some user made maps that show the community is fully up to the task of producing good stuff.

[AKA]PanamaJack
12-02-2004, 02:49 PM
The most accurate review yet from the perspective of someone that actually played Tribes a lot.

http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/tribes_vengeance/Default.asp

The following quote from the guy hits the nail right on the head with T:V.

Tribes: Vengeance remains entrenched in the outdoors, but its action chokes on tiny, contrived maps that evoke stock and trade FPS level design. Moreover, the developers dared to dumb down the weaponry and deployables that were once the watermark of Tribes, which turned what was a thinking man’s game into another mindless shooter. Tribes: Vengeance is not a game, it’s an epitaph.

VUG/Sierra should be proud of their accomplishment in trashing Tribes. But then again the T2 bashers got a game with faster skiing, tiny maps with almost non-existant bases, useless vehicles and equally useless deployables. Just what the bashers on Tribal War cried for. So don't cry about the state of T:V as this is what happens when developers/producers listen to fan sites for game design.

T:V is basically about as boring as you can get. :( There is nothing there to keep a person interested in playing after a few weeks.

Pachacutec
12-02-2004, 03:29 PM
PJ you are a joke, you play every night. go be a hypocrite somewhere else.

with regard to that reviewer, if he's talking about dumbing down the weapons, he was obviously a t2er, since t1's weapon set was significantly less varied than t:vs

here's a man that thinks guided rockets are the "hallmark of tribes" ? puhlease, try again.

Wulfen
12-02-2004, 08:56 PM
PJ you are a joke, you play every night. go be a hypocrite somewhere else.

with regard to that reviewer, if he's talking about dumbing down the weapons, he was obviously a t2er, since t1's weapon set was significantly less varied than t:vs

here's a man that thinks guided rockets are the "hallmark of tribes" ? puhlease, try again.

You think dumbing down has anything to do with weapon count(nevermind that it's already been proven that even in T1 you had more varied loadouts than are possible in T:V)??

How anyone can say this game *wasn't* dumbed down is beyond me. The Wargamer review is spot-on, IMO. You few who are left playing can certainly choose to ignore what I would consider the obvious..

Also to add: "Tribes: Vengeance is a miss, and it pains me to say it." I don't think he wanted to dislike this game, just the same as many others didn't want to dislike it, but ended up doing just that.

hardcampa
12-02-2004, 09:36 PM
hardcampa, i start thinking u r stupid beyond belief.
noone plays this effing game, and thats not because they cant adujust to the game.
I am tempted to join a server with you and then you show me of what you are capable to do, because u sound like a 14 year old child not getting that "his" game failes miserably and therefor all the others must be stupid.

Show me how you can adapt ingame and then i show you how bad u are when it comes to skill.

because as u pointed out clearly some weeks ago in euroforums, all players who cant adapt or dont like the game need skillz.hahaha.

piecemaker you lack skillz ok

Antares Reign
12-02-2004, 09:43 PM
Tribes: Vengeance is not a game, it’s an epitaph. Until it gets some mods and new maps...assuming it lasts long enough.

Although the survival of the Tribes franchise is worth some waiting. Personally, I'll be sticking it out for awhile.

hardcampa
12-02-2004, 09:43 PM
Panama Jack is clearly pissed that now we won't use his scripts anymore. So the game is bad.

[AKA]PanamaJack
12-02-2004, 10:07 PM
Panama Jack is clearly pissed that now we won't use his scripts anymore. So the game is bad.

Not hardly.

After I played the beta and people asked me if I was going to make anything for T:V I told them I seriously doubt it. Even then I figured the game would tank pretty quickly. Everything was oversimplified in the game. The maps were so small you could fart in your base and the enemy could smell it in their base.

I went ahead and bought the game against my better judgement to try and show some support, hoping that the retail would be better. At this point a patch will do absolutely nothing to generate any new interest in the game.

And It has been two weeks since I played T:V. Maybe I will play again tonight before things get to the point where finding a server with more than 10 people is impossible. :(

?B-MAN
12-02-2004, 11:57 PM
PJ you are a joke, you play every night. go be a hypocrite somewhere else.

with regard to that reviewer, if he's talking about dumbing down the weapons, he was obviously a t2er, since t1's weapon set was significantly less varied than t:vs

here's a man that thinks guided rockets are the "hallmark of tribes" ? puhlease, try again.

Not that all the weapons are dumbed down, but you cant tell me the rifle (da jackal) hasnt been gimped to hell, or isnt buggy as hell.

uno
12-03-2004, 12:14 AM
GoD - Dropped
=V= - Dropped
TAU - Dropped

5150, I guess you guys are next. Then possibly kore and then the ladder would pretty much be a ghost town...
if this patch doesnt fix gameplay issues, Vupy might be on that list.