T:V Review in PC Gamer

PC Gamer gave Doom3 a almost perfect score. :lol:

Out goes THEIR credibility.

The UK PCZone review will be in the december issue.


The december issue was released last week :)

Bottom line is PC Gamer has become all about selling more mags and getting revenue rather than being a good gaming mag.

Whether or not you agree with their scoring of T:V, the mag doesn't mesure up to their old standards.

It's a shame.

It been close to a month and a half since the game has come out and you have only seen a couple post from the Devs but nothing with any kind of info. Yet they are in here in a flash when they want players to send in emails to people who write bad reviews.

Emails need to be sent saying the review was not harsh enough.

Bottom line is PC Gamer has become all about selling more mags and getting revenue rather than being a good gaming mag.

Whether or not you agree with their scoring of T:V, the mag doesn't mesure up to their old standards.

It's a shame.

Nothing in todays world measures up to the old standards, from the president on down.
It's what we allow by supporting entities that would go in reverse rather than forward.
Take Halo2 4 example. Its not Tribes but it is in the same vein as Halo1 so they delivered what they needed to deliver and sold $125+ million the first day.
IG deviates and sells what on the 1st day release

Reminds me of this guy I saw on the sidewalk beating up this old prositute. As he was choking her, he yelled, "You so and so, you gave me crabs."
She looked up at him and said in a half choked voice, "Well what did you expect from $5 bucks, Lobster?"

Er, Menzo isn't a dev, he's a PR guy. IrritAnt has been around as of late, and is releasing a map that he did. Point two is that they are working on a patch, so what kind of info do you want? When the patch is out? They told you when its done, yeah those kind of release dates suck but its better then getting four or five patchs-one after another- because the first patch didn't take care of many of the problems. (Not saying this one well, but it has a better chance if they take the time on it.)

Whats in the patch? Yeh that would be nice, but I don't see it coming.

Er, I can't think of any other info that I wanted to know. What did you want to know?

Ah HA! So that's why yer so bitter menes. Kerry suporter, eh?
(If I was a yank I'd be ticked too)

The reasons for T:Vs weak sales on release are complex and many. The lack of well done marketing is prolly the largest one, but compeating big name releases hurts a lot too.

Don't get me wrong... I hear what you are saying about the deviation. I was none to thrilled with it either. I had writen T:V off about a year ago. The odd thing is when I started playing the game, I found myself more and more enjoying it for what it is.

I'd still love to see either a mod or full blown production thats more in line with Dynamix's vison of T3. I have an old PC Accelerator around here where one of those lads fessed up to what he saw in store for the franchise. It wasn't "faster, streamlined, pertier" it was "more vehicles, more options, more distance, more...".

Man... I woulda loved to have seen that game!
But I'm also digging T:V and I think IG should get props for tackeling a tough job and producing something that is FUN (if not perfect).

524 people playing t1 right now and 338 playng t:v. It has nothing to do with people playing the SP player game and it has nothing to do with what time it is right now.

I remember when they started making threads about what was not gonna be included in the game and players were complaining about it. For example, Sensor Jammer, SL, Target Laser, Bioderm, Cloak Pack. The devs took out stuff for the simple reason that they were focused on the single player and did not want to take the time in adding new aspects in the multi player.


Whether you liked t2 or not, it at least it added new aspects on top what was already there from t1 (which was a great game). T:V didnt do that. They got lazy with t:v.

People can argue all they want and say that t:v is a great game. But they still cant explain why only 338 people are playing right now.

Pssst... there's also 1200 people playing Subspace/Continuum right now.
That doesn't mean it's a good game. It is however FREE and runs on bottom end machines.

Pssst... there's also 1200 people playing Subspace/Continuum right now.
That doesn't mean it's a good game. It is however FREE and runs on bottom end machines.

But we arent talking about subspace/continuum, we are talking about tribes 1 and t:v. And are you telling me that only 338 people have computers good enough to run T:V. They ran out and bought it without have a computer good enough to play it?

Er, Menzo isn't a dev, he's a PR guy. IrritAnt has been around as of late, and is releasing a map that he did. Point two is that they are working on a patch, so what kind of info do you want? When the patch is out? They told you when its done, yeah those kind of release dates suck but its better then getting four or five patchs-one after another- because the first patch didn't take care of many of the problems. (Not saying this one well, but it has a better chance if they take the time on it.)

Whats in the patch? Yeh that would be nice, but I don't see it coming.

Er, I can't think of any other info that I wanted to know. What did you want to know?

If you're a PR guy why not have a list of whats coming up in the next few patches? Makes sense to me. People are leaving the game at fast rate, people are pretty unpleased with it. Having a list with issues they are adderssing doesnt sound that unreasonable to me.

Its been in a few threads that the tourney mode had been messed up, the net code is not what it should be and the way the game runs take to much on the servers and turns out to be quite expensive. Why can't a PR guy say whether or not these issues are gonna be addressed in the next few months?

But we arent talking about subspace/continuum, we are talking about tribes 1 and t:v. And are you telling me that only 338 people have computers good enough to run T:V. They ran out and bought it without have a computer good enough to play it?

OOp... wait a sec, yer talking about numbers of people playing on-line vs the number of people that actually bought the game... not just numbers in general.

I just ment that since T1 is both free and runs on slow ass machines, it's got a draw to those people with lesser hardware.

As to why more people aren't playing on-line, I suspect a lot of it stems from the way pubs tend to turn into blow-outs with vets stacking teams and not giving the noobs a chance to learn. This is a seriouslly frustrating game to get into as a noob.

As for vets that hate it... well... each unto their own, but I think a lot of folks around here need to get over themselves.

Maybe because he doesn't know? Or he doesn't have a list of the features of the patch? :shrug:

If you were to pick 4 things that need fixed, and they were only addressing 2 things, then obviously they would not want to come out and say there were 2 things NOT being fixed. Suppose they said they were fixing tourney mode and spectate mode, but either kept silent or actually said there was no more improvements they could make to the netcode and didnt really have anything to fix TVed yet.

A good amount of the fence sitters would give up on the game. Atleast if they are silent the people who encourage "hope" for the game like para and bit keep doing so.

I want to point out something that people are apparently overlooking. There are no notable complaints about the SP. Its all MP requests. You have heard NOTHING significant from KP since his post about how people would love the tools for modding. If he was our accepted MP guru, and he has not said anything, could it be because he has nothing good to say? Sure they are probably putting a gag order on folks..but why?

just something to think about

Heehee... It's always nice to have your hopes forfilled

http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340903

:D

(told ya so :p )

I got through the SP with only one death on hard.
I died as little julia trying to grapple up because I didnt know when you refired it reels you in...

Hard? Try preparing nubs for what awaits them in MP...

Pc gamer is a terrible mag. Their reviews are awful and misleading. I got that mag for one year and decided not to renew.

weird...I wrote both addys...had a reply back (written, not a form letter) from teh editor in like 45 mins

basically he says he thinks the problem is Menzo is upset about it & stirring this up...I replied & told him I didnt give a crap what Menzo thought, that the review was poorly written & inaccurate...I wouldnt argue with the 70% IF it had been for the real issues in the game

I got through the SP with only one death on hard.
I died as little julia trying to grapple up because I didnt know when you refired it reels you in...

Hard? Try preparing nubs for what awaits them in MP...

I'm sure I died well over 100 times. Probably over 20 just facing the bomber & 2 duelists. Probably another 20 on the last mission before I realized I had a remove inv. Another 10 or so in the bucker duel. It's great that you rocked at the SP, but I think only dying once on Hard would be the exception rather than the rule.

weird...I wrote both addys...had a reply back (written, not a form letter) from teh editor in like 45 mins

basically he says he thinks the problem is Menzo is upset about it & stirring this up...I replied & told him I didnt give a crap what Menzo thought, that the review was poorly written & inaccurate...I wouldnt argue with the 70% IF it had been for the real issues in the game

The problem with reviewing a tribes game is you either get a non tribes player who is not going to understand the game, or a tribes player who is most likely going to bring thier bias about the game.

Tribes is a subgenre of first person shooters that has only has 3 games:

Tribes, T2, and now Tribes:Vengeance.

Menzo would have been better served not posting in this thread.