Is T:V more demanding on the CPU or GPU?

Well the Unreal engine is very CPU intensive. But then again I know that the Irrational guys have made modifications to the engine so it may be a different story now.

Anyone want to run some benchmarks with different parts?

CPU, by far.

That's not to say a decent vid card won't improve your peformance, but the topic question was what's it more demanding on, CPU by far.

You are incorrect.

You are incorrect.

Yes, and so are you for not correcting me. Feel free to do so with your mind-numbing assumptions.

Have you done any testing? I have, and you are incorrect.

A newer video card, with his current CPU will get him greater frames, than a faster CPU, and the same video card. Besides the fact that he would have to upgrade the mobo to go much higher. Common sense says a new video card is a better idea, right now.

Anyone want to run some benchmarks with different parts?

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Have you done any testing? I have, and you are incorrect.

A newer video card, with his current CPU will get him greater frames, than a faster CPU, and the same video card. Besides the fact that he would have to upgrade the mobo to go much higher. Common sense says a new video card is a better idea, right now.

The posted topic title: "Is T:V more demanding on the CPU or GPU?", which I responded to.

And he was wanting to know which would help him more, a new CPU or GPU. The GPU will. Case closed.

And he was wanting to know which would help him more, a new CPU or GPU. The GPU will. Case closed.

Yes, I chose to respond to the thread title. You chose to respond to me saying I was incorrect, go figure.

The thread title, but not the questions he asked in his post, go figure. You also provided no facts for your claim. Im done responding to you, you're obviously here just to troll, like so many new members.

The thread title, but not the questions he asked in his post, go figure. You also provided no facts for your claim. Im done responding to you, you're obviously here just to troll, like so many new members.

You provided no facts as well and you incited my response. I could label you a troll, but I can tell you're the county expert here at TW ;)

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Yeah I saw that. There are no exact numbers on that though. Not to mention there is a lot of different types of hardware and configurations. I was thinking something more like switching out a processor or a video card in the same system and getting some exact numbers.

Howdy Pen old mate !!!

First off, I would personally just upgrade vid for right now. It should get u through a year or two.

Then after that, spend and invest in one of the dual core proc solutions coming down the pipes. Inter or AMD, still hard to tell which will be better. The instructions in the intel chips will be better at somethings then the AMD, so time will tell if the intel chip gets better instructions for the gaming apps. Also, with the PEG boards coming out, as far as I know, they still wont fully use the bandwidth of the ports. The current chipsets as I know only support 24x PCI Express bandwidth. Newer chipsets are coming or may have been released, via, etc... That should up that. But with the peg graphics both having 16x bandwidth, which I think is something like 8 GB I believe, and the way the nvidea cards are used in SLI, which differ from the old 3dfx or alienware solution, should be VERY nice. So you can spend 400 $ nice card now and in 2 years, spend maybe 200 for the current PEG cards, guessing they should be about 100 $ or so then and have NICE graphics. Whether or not they will be able to handle current games will be something to think about. With the arrival of unreal 3 engine, and games created off that, u are looking at needing a gig of graphics ram, and a pretty powerfull GPU in the next 2-3 years :) Also, I believe 512 meg ddr3 cards should be out this year or early next. So, go with something cheap/good that can play T:V and wait a few years for the newest/greatest thing :).

Also, u should also make sure that older versions of nvideas PEG cards will work with newer ones. Right now PCI is limited to 32x or like 16 GB of bandwidth, but ive read that it could be increased to 64x and higher. I still havent read anything about the current peg/sli solutions being offered from nvidea being backwards compatible with newer cards that come out a 1-3 years down the road. The way the SLI is done tho, I dont see why they wouldnt be, but who knows. A LOT TO THINK ABOUT :)

thanks guys

I am looking at getting a FX5950 right now - seems like the people who had those are all going 6800 and you can get one for $180 or so.

I think this will give me the video boost I need without doing what I dont want to do - spend a lot on a new AGP card and then go all PCIE in a while

I think that would hold me for a year or so and I plan on setting up water cooling (Exos AL probably for my first try - all custom on my next PC)

Looks like when I do upgrade, I am going to have to do everything.

For the record the GeForce FX 5xxx cards don't like Pixel Shader 2.0.

For the record the GeForce FX 5xxx cards don't like Pixel Shader 2.0.

What does this mean exactly?

These are high clock cards with good bandwidth - do they not run UT/TV well?

Would I be better off with a 9800pro/XT? I am more comfortable with nvidia, but I do hear that ATI is better on the UT engines...

When you enable Pixel Shader 2.0 in the graphics settings in T:V (or other games) you lose a noticable amount of performance.

That's not to say you have to enable PS2.0, because as far as I know the only difference between it and 1.0 is better performance on some cards (or worse performance of course).

hmm - I think I have been turning that on for my Ti 4600 :P

Or rather, 2.0 performs better on some systems. (if I wasn't clear on that)

Your Ti4600 cant do PS 2.0, so it doesnt matter if you turn it on or not. Its a DX9 feature, the GF4's are only DX8.1. Except the MX's which are DX7 thanks to some very shady naming. Enabling it on a card that supports it will slow the game down, but giving some better effects.

If you want to stay at $180, the 9800 Pro is a better overall card.

thanks

btw - I saw your water cooled pics - very nice - is there an english version of the aqua web page?