guys please play fair...

As totaly rediculous as the poster's plea is, how is it different from dis-allowing turtling or O snipping?


Anything is ok as long as your the one DOING it, when your on the receiving end it sucks.



O sniping is shazbot
Turtling is shazbot
Continuous PUB base rape is shazbot
and...


The stupid ass peice of shazbot bomber.

Anything is ok as long as your the one DOING it, when your on the receiving end it sucks.

O sniping is shazbot
Turtling is shazbot
Continuous PUB base rape is shazbot
and...

The stupid ass peice of shazbot bomber.
I always find it funny that people defend baseraping but bitch and moan about Osniping and Turtling...

"oh its not fair (or sportsmanlike) to Osnipe or Turtle..." :mecry:

:shrug:

Oh and Im almost CERTAIN that spawn invul. is borked cuz I was playing one map where the guys had our gens camped and I ONLY spawned int eh room, and never even got to move before Id be blown up again :rolleyes:

Yeah, a laugh riot... :ugh:

Oh and Im almost CERTAIN that spawn invul. is borked cuz

.

Yeah that spawn is broke.

And o-sniping and turtling became a no-no in Tribes because it makes for boring games.

Flag carriers turtling in their base creates 10 minute stand-offs.

O-sniping makes flag carriers turtle.

Okay let me explain something so you understand. If it works, people are going to do it. All these things that you say hurt the game work. By doing them people reach their goal. You can't ban certain tactics if the game let's you do them. To think that people will voluntarily not do them is foolish. It takes one person to not agree to play by these self imposed constraints and these rules go out the window.

O sniping annoys the hell out of the enemy team and it works.
Turtling increases the chance of holding onto the flag and it works.
Baseraping keeps the other team on the defensive and it works.

You won't people stop doing them unless administrators start banning for these offenses.

I hold this truth to be self evident: People will use the most effective consistent tactics that increase their chances for success in any game.

Really though, the newbs coming in hate it. Keep it to extreme boredom or vet only servers. That way we don't scare so many newbs away.

guys please play fair....

dont camp in the enemy base
Its one thing going through to destroy the equipment buts another when you stay in there preventing the team to be able to recoup
Please reference the following article concerning "Playing to Win" (http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.ht m).

It opened my eyes, maybe it will work for you. Unless strictly bound by the game engine everything and anything is acceptable and encouraged if it helps you win. The obvious exceptions are blatent cheats (hacks that bypass the game rules) or exploits (bugs in the game that also bypass the game rules).

If a game becomes un-fun due to a particular play style (camping, o-sniping, turtling) then the game is broken. The game should be fixed. We should not start trying to implement some kind of code of ethics for the community based on a broken part of the game that some find unfun.

Personally i'd be glad if entering the base with the flag was imposible, i think it would put the focus more on the chase that it's suposed to be and not on the "get through the impenitrable defences with enough life left to duel somebody." I feel it's a broken part of the game, so i like to play on servers that add rules to the game that prohibit turtling.

If you can find servers that kick/ban on O-camping feel free to play on those, but please don't lecture us on morality and ethics within the game.



As far as the actual subject goes, you get 3 seconds of invulnerability to kill the camper with, not to mention you respawn 2 seconds away to duel him again and he respawns 60+ seconds away. I should hope he lives no longer than 15-20 seconds in your base (good teams won't let him make it past 10). If he's lasting longer than that it's really your fault, not the game.

Probably was that Spiridium map or whatever. The arena one.

That is the one mapping error in T:V I think. No alternate spawn location, no rover, and no barriers on the spawn location. It is a real frustration if the enemy is determined to keep you down on that map.
I actually had to agree on this one, until i learned there was an alternate invantory station below your spawn (fall through the lower barier and then down the next hole).

The spawn room is so small that a train of morters keep the inv down permanantly, but with 2 inv it balances out, i just don't think many realize they have a whole other section to their base.

I got 100 points on Spiridian raping :D

75 kills.

The spawn invulnerability is broken too. I would shoot a mortar, and right when 3 people spawned, it blew up, and they all died instantly, with it saying they killed themselves...
This stuff really gets me, the spawn protection doesn't kick in until after they spawn, so morters can still kill for .5 seconds the instant they spawn, really needs fixing :\

As totaly rediculous as the poster's plea is, how is it different from dis-allowing turtling or O snipping?
Point and match - Bitraiser :D

I am gonna agree on this one, it does tend to spoil the fun of a pub. ONly if done too much, to turn the tables or for a come back sure, but dedicating your full 20 minutes to raping the enemy base...it gets old
I think the only time it's bad is when 3/4 of the enemy team is HO, because on a pub the defending team usually doesn't have the coordination to take advantage of that situation and cap. Sure in a match that much HO would be worthless and the team not using that much would dominate, but on a pub that doesn't happen, the team getting raped gets dominated 9 times out of 10.

Incidentaly enough, most times this happens is when teams are stacked...

I don't know how the game is going to be played otherwise. As in all multiplayer games the action can get quite chaotic; and being not particularly good at FPS, I die a lot, which is expected. As far as competing players do not exploit some bug, it is fine with me. Online games are pretty much unregulated in that there is no standard to which people are beholden such as some rules concerning ethics; there is simply nothing of the kind. Free for all fests are like anonymous people just dashing each other's heads in with no reason.

But I wish I had some bots so I could drive the bomber with the turrets manned; I try to learn as much as I can but communication seems tad too difficult with action so frenetic. I think I will get used to it before becoming any good in this game.

I think the constant pleas for people to stop turtling and osniping are useless. Its gonna happen regardless and the constant complaining in public non-competition servers by vets is annoying. Ease up. You won't convince a noob to conform to your rules when you and some other vets are constantly base raping them. In there opinion thats just as cheap. Its equivalent to spawn camping in their minds. The base rape in T:V is extreme. 2 or 3 good HO's can easily keep a base down the whole round. The invulnerability bug is making it worse.

I think the constant pleas for people to stop turtling and osniping are useless. Its gonna happen regardless and the constant complaining in public non-competition servers by vets is annoying. Ease up. You won't convince a noob to conform to your rules when you and some other vets are constantly base raping them. In there opinion thats just as cheap. Its equivalent to spawn camping in their minds. The base rape in T:V is extreme. 2 or 3 good HO's can easily keep a base down the whole round. The invulnerability bug is making it worse.

get the eff off our servers then, or we will ban your ass
Tribes is known for its nazi admins

Point and match - Bitraiser :D

except not.

O-Sniping forces the flag carrier inside
Turtling MEANS the flag carrier is inside

both of these mean that the game is a slow-paced standoff because pubs lack the coordination to retrieve the flag

:lol: :lol:

It's easier than ever to kill people camping your base.

In reply to the author:

If you're in a fair fight, you did something wrong.

Maybe they should implement a feature that kills a person whenever he kills someone else, so 'fair' whiners like you can be satisfied?

get the eff off our servers then, or we will ban your ass
Tribes is known for its nazi admins

Exactly. It doesn't suprise me that it's mostly members defending the "if it's in the game, it's ok" line.

On any good server you will get banned for turtling and o-sniping. If you're lucky and the server admin is nice, you may get warned first.

This has been an unwritten rule in Tribes pubs for nearly 6 years now, and there is a very good reason for it.

your effing kidding right?