Direct SecuROM related heat to VUG NOT Irrational!

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Creole Ned
10-06-2004, 06:35 PM
Keep the flaming in GD, please.

SuperTrap
10-06-2004, 06:35 PM
you deleted my response?

*Edit

Ok fine.

Like I'm the only one complaining about a major problem *Censor*

BitRaiser
10-06-2004, 06:36 PM
He didn't tell me to STFU... yet ;)

IrritAnt
10-06-2004, 06:36 PM
you deleted my response?

Yes I did.

The moment you make it personal you cross the line.

chop
10-06-2004, 06:37 PM
For the rest of you, bear with us. Your concerns are being duly noted. I'll get back to you as soon as I know something concrete.
Yay, thanks! :cheers:

ViRGE
10-06-2004, 06:38 PM
For the rest of you, bear with us. Your concerns are being duly noted. I'll get back to you as soon as I know something concrete.
We appreciate it Ant, even if it's not apparent. Still, for the love of Qix, make it quick before this place spontaneously combusts. :p

Kaladryn
10-06-2004, 06:39 PM
Yeah cause I'm the only one complaining about a major problem jackass

Please IP ban SuperTrap permanently.

I've seen programs like SecuROM really make a mess of games, C-Dilla and Mechwarrior come to mind.

BTW anyone attacking BitRaiser is way off, this guy always seems to post good, constructive stuff from what I've seen.

BugsPray
10-06-2004, 06:39 PM
I don't have the game yet, but...

/me gets the popcorn and watches the show.

Kerosene31
10-06-2004, 06:39 PM
Thanks...

And cut the guy some slack... sure this is a problem but if this is the worst thing to go wrong, then that isn't all that bad.

People can still host servers.

Hudson
10-06-2004, 06:41 PM
Yes I did.

The moment you make it personal you cross the line.


rofl go man go!

Hologram
10-06-2004, 06:42 PM
Thanks, Ant, for noticing what everyone has been in a huff about. Appreciated.

Asura
10-06-2004, 06:45 PM
Ant now has my complete and utter respect because he is getting hardcore when it counts. I dont envy you, but best of luck.

BitRaiser
10-06-2004, 06:52 PM
Me <-- busted
Heehee, sorry for the flame on SuperTrap (that was removed), but I couldn't resist a parting shot. So I'm weak. Sue me! :p

Anyway, it's really good to know Irrational's on the case now. I can't even buy the game for another couple days thanks to me being a Canuck... I just don't like seeing blame dropped on those that don't deserve it. Irrational could become a major player in the deminishing Dev house pool. Having their name dragged through the mud for something that was beyond their control would be a crying shame.

Calder
10-06-2004, 06:54 PM
Me <-- busted
Heehee, sorry for the flame on SuperTrap (that was removed), but I couldn't resist a parting shot. So I'm weak. Sue me! :p

Anyway, it's really good to know Irrational's on the case now. I can't even buy the game for another couple days thanks to me being a Canuck... I just don't like seeing blame dropped on those that don't deserve it. Irrational could become a major player in the deminishing Dev house pool. Having their name dragged through the mud for something that was beyond their control would be a crying shame.
EB is pissed at me for calling so much.

They just say tomorrow, and ask if I've preordered, I say yes, they say they'll call when it comes.

I call back later, because I'm sure they're lying.

SuperTrap
10-06-2004, 06:56 PM
Sorry. Imagine my surprise at getting chastised for crossing the line and personal attacks at TW. I won't call you names anymore more IrritAnt.

fraidykat
10-06-2004, 07:03 PM
Sorry. Imagine my surprise at getting chastised for crossing the line and personal attacks at TW. I won't call you names anymore more IrritAnt.

This is TT skippy...the rules have been around for quite some time

FlakDaddy >VIII<
10-06-2004, 07:07 PM
Development houses need to put their foot down when they negociate their contract with the publisher, or this kind of things will happen over and over and over again!

BitRaiser
10-06-2004, 07:14 PM
STFU meber

:p
That is the standard line, is it not?
:lol:

Anyway... I'm hoping that dedicated server package comes to us soonish... It would be a crying shame to actually have to play through the single player before mixing it up on-line... or maybe looking into the tools package and importing my meshs... or... umm... right! Soon! We want it soon! Send them good vibes!

BitRaiser
10-06-2004, 07:20 PM
Development houses need to put their foot down when they negociate their contract with the publisher, or this kind of things will happen over and over and over again!

The problem is, if they try to put their foot down, it's lible to get lopped off. VUG has paid the bills for the development cycle and there's not alot of leverage Irrational can use against them.

Valve is a different story since they are packing some serious lisences firepower of their own, but they've been just as abusive to VUG as VUG to them.

The ones that can really make an impact on VUG is... US! We the people, or rather we the consumers. If we vote with our dollars and not by the game, Irrational will suffer, so that's not the best option. You can still E-mail VUG and let them know what you think. If you have the slightest problem with secuROM DEMAND satisfaction from them. Hell, even phonecalls can be effective... or rants on forums like this one: http://community.vugames.com/WebX?14@127.i8zodnWkRSe.2 969210@.1dd8575d

-Geist-
10-06-2004, 07:22 PM
This is TT skippy...the rules have been around for quite some time

Those rules are frequently ignored.