So, what about Grappling the flag?

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Vicelord
09-27-2004, 01:16 PM
Is it in the Final version or not? I'd love to see it back again, I really missed this feature in the latest beta version, it was a very nice element to put into the gameplay, it was a reason more to use the grappler in default loadout.

tmc
09-27-2004, 01:17 PM
im pretty sure they removde it because it make it too easy to grab the flag, in which case I see no reason why they would bring it back.

Zxqv8
09-27-2004, 01:18 PM
I still like the grappling the flag only in the air idea.

slogg
09-27-2004, 01:44 PM
while it was a good tactic, it forced chasers to carry a grapple in order to compete with possible escorts and such

i like having it left out :shrug:

NAT Mav
09-27-2004, 02:50 PM
Yeah, grappling forces immediate returns and takes away the option of leaving the flag in the field because you can't protect it.

Amadeus
09-27-2004, 03:44 PM
I have never played with flag grappling, but there wasn't a single time while playing the beta where I said to myself "dude, I wish I could grapple that flag". :shrug:

impulse
09-27-2004, 04:07 PM
even if it isnt in the final version could it be modded into the game?

Wulfen
09-27-2004, 04:10 PM
Yeah, grappling forces immediate returns and takes away the option of leaving the flag in the field because you can't protect it.

You can't do that anyway since 10 defenders will all rush to return it for their precious return point. :P

Amadeus
09-27-2004, 04:12 PM
even if it isnt in the final version could it be modded into the game?
Probably. The question is much more if it is wanted.

Bridude
09-27-2004, 04:16 PM
The devs said they didnt have enough time to properly animate the return so they took it out. I think it was going to retract slowly or something.

Amadeus
09-27-2004, 04:21 PM
Yup, that's it. I'm still not sure if it should be there even if it retracts slowly.



Unless the anchor is detached when shot, so discing the flag makes it stop. :o

(what a change from T2.... :lol: )

Techlogic
09-27-2004, 04:28 PM
at first I was sad to see flag grappling being taken out since it was new. Now, I'm gald it's gone and hope it isn't added back in.

ZenTseTse
09-27-2004, 04:30 PM
personally, i found the flag grappling to be MUCH more fun and tactically enjoyable than the current "spam the flag" reality.

i can understand taking it away as a base feature, but i'll be happy to see some servers run it as a mutator.

FreshMeat
09-27-2004, 04:35 PM
The devs said they didnt have enough time to properly animate the return so they took it out. I think it was going to retract slowly or something.

Whatever the reason, I am of the opinion flag grapling should not be in the game.

BitRaiser
09-27-2004, 04:37 PM
I'm hoping some other grapple issues were resolved/sured-up for the release... like hanging off vehicles and grappling onto eachother!

ELF? I don't need no stinkin ELF! Watch me attach this cable to your face and see how far yer gonna fly! ;)

I did some low ping local testing and was able to actually snag a buddy and hang on!
We were also able to slingshot each other around with a little practice.
Seems to no work as well in high player/laggy servers in the beta.

Pachacutec
09-27-2004, 04:39 PM
while it was a good tactic, it forced chasers to carry a grapple in order to compete with possible escorts and such

i like having it left out :shrug:

which is why everyone should have a grapple and a b- sigh... no one listens to me but i'm right.

Pachacutec
09-27-2004, 04:40 PM
I'm hoping some other grapple issues were resolved/sured-up for the release... like hanging off vehicles and grappling onto eachother!


iam TOTALLY waiting for the exact same thing, i want to grapple off an enemies pod. i want to have high speed grapple redirects with teammates, i want it all! i really hope they fix the grapple up good.

Bridude
09-27-2004, 04:41 PM
Whatever the reason, I am of the opinion flag grapling should not be in the game.

I play LD, and I agree with you.

BitRaiser
09-27-2004, 04:49 PM
The nastiest thing I did while we were testing was to tell my buddy to go for a cap run on emerald... he snags the flag and goes into his jet boost, just as I nailed him with a grapple. The result was FANTSTIC! He swing up, over around and SLAM into the ground at VERY high speed. = Dead. Either one of us could stop laughing for a lng time... and we're dying to see if this sorta stupid grapple trick will be usable in the final version!

Hope hope hope hope hope hope.
(We need a "fingers crossed" emoticon!)

impulse
09-27-2004, 07:10 PM
I'm hoping some other grapple issues were resolved/sured-up for the release... like hanging off vehicles and grappling onto eachother!

ELF? I don't need no stinkin ELF! Watch me attach this cable to your face and see how far yer gonna fly! ;)

I did some low ping local testing and was able to actually snag a buddy and hang on!
We were also able to slingshot each other around with a little practice.
Seems to no work as well in high player/laggy servers in the beta.

HELL YES DUDE!

I was playing in a pub with a buddy the other day on Cavern. He got the enemy flag and came back to our base and got suited up in heavy and was just chillin around the flag bowl area. I was in light with the grappler and went over to him as he was repairing himself and latched onto him.

Needless to say, I didnt think it worked and took off towards the enemy base only to hear him start screaming on Teamspeak. It was the funniest thing ever. We lived for a long ass time with me with my disk and him with the mortar attacking the enemy base. Even managed to retrieve our flag and cap. It was awesome though because he was just being whipped around behind me, infront of me, all over the damn place.

Everybody on the server was flipping out, wondering what the hell was going on. So much fun!

I kinda hope this is able to work in the full game...although it could become rather annoying when all the noobs realize how it works.