The more I see, the more I don't believe an aircraft hit the Pentagon.

yeah since it's not possible to get tossed from a crash and all.

They also found small parts left from the people that were on the flights that hit the twin towers.

Were those a hoax, too?

You really are a piece of work.

so no sizeable debris was tossed but someone was tossed through the aircraft?

Debris DID GO INTO THE OTHER RINGS.

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Debris DID GO INTO THE OTHER RINGS.

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no...they are trying to say that the fuselage went through 3 rings. this fuselage, that apparently disappeared, punctured nice round holes through 3 rings of the pentagon..the same super sturdy structure that caught 80 tons of aircraft moving at 500+ mph and kept it all in the same place to burn...

I didn’t read the thread so if this has been addressed, forgive me. And also I just blasted through this shooting from the hip based on what I know and will clarify anything I missed or anything that isn’t clear.

I spent almost 10 years of my life around commercial and corporate aircraft, fueling everything from a Cessna 150 to the Concorde, I’ve been a private pilot for over 11 years, and I can tell you that all arguments I have read and seen are made by those who simply do not understand anything about commercial aircraft outside of “you pay money, you get on em, you land in another town, and they sure are big.”

People assume that aircraft are these hulking, solid hunks of iron hurling through the sky. When in fact they are rather delicate pieces of machinery that are for all intensive purposes a big empty shell. Consistently people ask where the wings are? The wings are in a billion pieces around and in the Pentagon. And many of those pieces either burned up, melted, or were simply too small to be identifiable as part of the aircraft.

It is important that you understand that many parts on an aircraft are made from a magnesium alloys. Magnesium does burn and it burns hot. If you’ve ever wondered why they use foam on aircraft fires instead of water, now you know. Throw water on burning magnesium and see what happens. (Please stand way back first…actually, don’t try this at all)

I’ve watched a video about “the missing 757” and they spoke of the BTU’s that JP-8 generates. Well, I hate to tell them this but JP-8 is a military fuel and commercial aircraft in the US burn a grade called Jet-A. It nearly impossible to ignite, is extraordinarily oily, and weighs about 6.7 pounds per US gallon. When burning uncontrolled it has a tendency to evaporate a fair portion of the source due to the heat, and burns very black due to its oily properties.

The 757 carries anywhere from 14,500 to 15,500 pound of it in each wing depending on the fuel density which can vary from 6.55 to 6.9 pounds. That’s roughly 2,150 gallons in each wing, and the aircraft has a center tank in the fuselage which carries around 26,500 pounds of fuel. (4,000 gallons) Assuming the aircraft was topped off (around 8,000 gallons) you need to now figure out where that fuel went.

Again this is easy. If you’ve ever seen a fuel delivery being made at your local station, that tanker truck is probably carrying around 8,000 gallons. Now you have an idea of what 8,000 gallons of fuel looks like, compare that divided into 2/2000 gallon portions and 1/4000 gallon portion slamming into the side of the Pentagon @ 400+ mph. Review the animated gif captured by the security camera and your question is answered.

You can easily see the fluidity of the fireball in the first few frames, and by the amount of smoke that is generated very quickly, that the impact misted much of the fuel and it flash burned. The black marks all along the side of the building are more proof that Jet-A has been burning there.

I also submit the picture below which is a frame from the animated gif that the Pentagon security camera filmed, and you can clearly see the aircraft and the AA insignia on the vertical stabilizer.
http://files.tribalwar.com/getfile.php/16896463

Some computer generated models that show what happened to the plane can be found in the links below. There are some really good renders that show where the wings went, and why the aircraft came apart as it did.

http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.htm l
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase1/
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/projects/popescu/pentagonVis.htm

This post will never be addressed by the conspiracy theorists with their degrees in art and social science.

dont believe either. look for yourself. common sense tells you that you cant shove that aircraft into that hole and if you could it would have broken through the back wall, if it were high off the ground and didnt disturb the grass, debris would have went into the other rings or the courtyard. use your brain for something besides a filling for your skull.

Like reading the dozens of other posts in the thread explaining how it was a plane? Done and done.

Moon conspiracy part II

As opposed to letting a conspiracy nutbag think for them?

"Conspiracy nutbag" :rolleyes:


How about just getting informed first, you fucking inbred redneck

http://files.tribalwar.com/getfile.php/16896463

Ok..lets look at this picture. remember that the structure this object is about to hit is 77 feet tall..but the object that is noted on the picture s a 757...155 feet long

does that fuselage look longer than that building is tall?

"Conspiracy nutbag" :rolleyes:


How about just getting informed first, you fucking inbred redneck
What the hell is with this inbred redneck stuff?

I was born in the 2nd largest city in NY state. what the fuck are you talking about?

Maybe you should suck my fucking cock instead, like a good little impressionable faggot?

Arguing with JuggerNaught is like arguing with a rock. It's just not worth the trouble.

http://files.tribalwar.com/getfile.php/16896463

Ok..lets look at this picture. remember that the structure this object is about to hit is 77 feet tall..but the object that is noted on the picture s a 757...155 feet long

does that fuselage look longer than that building is tall?
It looks like the picture was taken from pretty far away....

http://files.tribalwar.com/getfile.php/16896463

Ok..lets look at this picture. remember that the structure this object is about to hit is 77 feet tall..but the object that is noted on the picture s a 757...155 feet long

does that fuselage look longer than that building is tall?

You do realize that the aircraft is approaching at an angle right?

Hey conspiracy dickwads, shut up and read the replies by intelligent and educated people who know something about airplanes and what happens when one crashes into a wall.

You do realize that the aircraft is approaching at an angle right?
you realize this picture is taken at an angle right?

dont believe either. look for yourself. common sense tells you that you cant shove that aircraft into that hole and if you could it would have broken through the back wall, if it were high off the ground and didnt disturb the grass, debris would have went into the other rings or the courtyard. use your brain for something besides a filling for your skull.

debris like this?

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/images/debris.jpg

argh fucking no remote linking...

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm - middle of the page, the pic of a chunk of plane debris :p

debris like this?

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/images/debris.jpg

argh fucking no remote linking...

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm - middle of the page, the pic of a chunk of plane debris :p
I got owned.

You keep throwing around these numbers like "Lets think how a plane that is 155 feet long, 144 feet wide and 225,000 lb" or "the plane is 44 feet tall". It's not.

The wingspan is 124 feet. (20 feet narrower than you say)
The tail height is 44 feet. (ie. only the tail section is that tall)

The body of the plane is only 12 feet wide.

i.e. 1/10 of the plane width you keep throwing around is the body of the plane, the rest is relatively flimsy wingspan.

Stop trying to make the plane sound bigger than it is.

(Source: http://www.boeing.com, of course they could be telling a lie too).

i'm guessing that the conspiracy theorists will say that chunk of plane was planted or something :p

debris like this?

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/images/debris.jpg

argh fucking no remote linking...

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm - middle of the page, the pic of a chunk of plane debris :p


b-b-b-but all the plane was pulled into the hole and destroyed by the fire!!! including the wings and the engines!!!


all except this one piece that was not burned so that the recognizeable paint would make a fine photo op....uh huh.

dont believe either. look for yourself. common sense tells you that you cant shove that aircraft into that hole and if you could it would have broken through the back wall, if it were high off the ground and didnt disturb the grass, debris would have went into the other rings or the courtyard. use your brain for something besides a filling for your skull.


I live a couple miles from the pentagon. My dad and the company he works for did the majority of the relaying of the concrete and has seen it up close and personal, much closer than most other random joe off the street. I've read about it in the local newspapers and have seen the website that started this whole theory. I've talked to people I've worked with many times about this very issue just to make sure that I'm not fabricating that I think one of them saw it happen.

In fact when I first heard about that website I wanted it to be true...I love a good conspiracy theory. When it comes down to it everything points the other way for me though.

Do I know how a large plane created a hole like that? No. It's ludicrous to think that just because this plane crash was different than one in pennsylvannia or other plane crashes doesnt automatically mean that it was a missile. It just seems like you are skipping over all the things people are writing in defense of it being a plane. Maybe you are the one who should use your brain for somehting other than a skull filler. At least I don't take the first alternative theory that comes along and proclaim it the gospel.