Vlasic
09-15-2004, 04:21 PM
and you actually believe that?
it's much more believeable than this shitbag conspiracy bullshit you keep spouting
it's much more believeable than this shitbag conspiracy bullshit you keep spouting
The more I see, the more I don't believe an aircraft hit the Pentagon.Vlasic 09-15-2004, 04:21 PM and you actually believe that? it's much more believeable than this shitbag conspiracy bullshit you keep spouting Dead Ben 09-15-2004, 04:23 PM http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pentagon.htm SlotR 09-15-2004, 04:24 PM Hilarious how people let fucking snopes.com do their thinking for them. Fucking tards WaterPog 09-15-2004, 04:26 PM ...if there isnt debris then there has to be melted aluminum slag that would equal out to that mass, the aluminum isnt going to evaporate. Psst...it's called smoke...;) Dead Ben 09-15-2004, 04:26 PM I used it as a tool...if you read my previous posts I have first hand experience. you go ahead and let the conspiracy website tell you what to think. JuggerNaught 09-15-2004, 04:29 PM Psst...it's called smoke...;) its not tissue paper ;) Vlasic 09-15-2004, 04:31 PM Hilarious how people let fucking snopes.com do their thinking for them. Fucking tards As opposed to letting a conspiracy nutbag think for them? GreasyBoy 09-15-2004, 04:32 PM I didn’t read the thread so if this has been addressed, forgive me. And also I just blasted through this shooting from the hip based on what I know and will clarify anything I missed or anything that isn’t clear. I spent almost 10 years of my life around commercial and corporate aircraft, fueling everything from a Cessna 150 to the Concorde, I’ve been a private pilot for over 11 years, and I can tell you that all arguments I have read and seen are made by those who simply do not understand anything about commercial aircraft outside of “you pay money, you get on em, you land in another town, and they sure are big.” People assume that aircraft are these hulking, solid hunks of iron hurling through the sky. When in fact they are rather delicate pieces of machinery that are for all intensive purposes a big empty shell. Consistently people ask where the wings are? The wings are in a billion pieces around and in the Pentagon. And many of those pieces either burned up, melted, or were simply too small to be identifiable as part of the aircraft. It is important that you understand that many parts on an aircraft are made from a magnesium alloys. Magnesium does burn and it burns hot. If you’ve ever wondered why they use foam on aircraft fires instead of water, now you know. Throw water on burning magnesium and see what happens. (Please stand way back first…actually, don’t try this at all) I’ve watched a video about “the missing 757” and they spoke of the BTU’s that JP-8 generates. Well, I hate to tell them this but JP-8 is a military fuel and commercial aircraft in the US burn a grade called Jet-A. It nearly impossible to ignite, is extraordinarily oily, and weighs about 6.7 pounds per US gallon. When burning uncontrolled it has a tendency to evaporate a fair portion of the source due to the heat, and burns very black due to its oily properties. The 757 carries anywhere from 14,500 to 15,500 pound of it in each wing depending on the fuel density which can vary from 6.55 to 6.9 pounds. That’s roughly 2,150 gallons in each wing, and the aircraft has a center tank in the fuselage which carries around 26,500 pounds of fuel. (4,000 gallons) Assuming the aircraft was topped off (around 8,000 gallons) you need to now figure out where that fuel went. Again this is easy. If you’ve ever seen a fuel delivery being made at your local station, that tanker truck is probably carrying around 8,000 gallons. Now you have an idea of what 8,000 gallons of fuel looks like, compare that divided into 2/2000 gallon portions and 1/4000 gallon portion slamming into the side of the Pentagon @ 400+ mph. Review the animated gif captured by the security camera and your question is answered. You can easily see the fluidity of the fireball in the first few frames, and by the amount of smoke that is generated very quickly, that the impact misted much of the fuel and it flash burned. The black marks all along the side of the building are more proof that Jet-A has been burning there. I also submit the picture below which is a frame from the animated gif that the Pentagon security camera filmed, and you can clearly see the aircraft and the AA insignia on the vertical stabilizer. http://files.tribalwar.com/getfile.php/16896463 Some computer generated models that show what happened to the plane can be found in the links below. There are some really good renders that show where the wings went, and why the aircraft came apart as it did. http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.htm l http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/ http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase1/ http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/projects/popescu/pentagonVis.htm JuggerNaught 09-15-2004, 04:32 PM As opposed to letting a conspiracy nutbag think for them? the 'conspiracy nutbags' are showing you proof of how it couldnt happen...i have yet to see proof of how it could. Vlasic 09-15-2004, 04:32 PM How come they couldn't extract enough of the planes from the twin towers to equal the mass of the "planes" that hit them? Vlasic 09-15-2004, 04:33 PM the 'conspiracy nutbags' are showing you proof of how it couldnt happen...i have yet to see proof of how it could. I have a fucking grave that said it happened you moronic piece of impressionable shit Dead Ben 09-15-2004, 04:34 PM the 'conspiracy nutbags' are showing you proof of how it couldnt happen...i have yet to see proof of how it could. and how do you justify my claim that people I know saw it happen? °Gn0m3_Gr0wN° 09-15-2004, 04:39 PM and how do you justify my claim that people I know saw it happen? mass hypnosis duh JuggerNaught 09-15-2004, 04:40 PM I have a fucking grave that said it happened you moronic piece of impressionable shit and what is in that grave? JuggerNaught 09-15-2004, 04:41 PM and how do you justify my claim that people I know saw it happen? for every 1 you show that says this is what they say, there are 20 that say it was anything from a truck to a van to a lear jet. Vlasic 09-15-2004, 04:41 PM and what is in that grave? a left hand could you possibly be any more insulting? JuggerNaught 09-15-2004, 04:42 PM a left hand could you possibly be any more insulting? and you know this because.... *edit*..wait..so let me get this straight. this fire burned hot enough to completely melt an 80ton aircraft, but there was a left hand left intact? Dead Ben 09-15-2004, 04:42 PM well i'll chose to believe people I know rather than people that offer alternative explanations on websites. Vlasic 09-15-2004, 04:44 PM and you know this because.... *edit*..wait..so let me get this straight. this fire burned hot enough to completely melt an 80ton aircraft, but there was a left hand left intact? yeah since it's not possible to get tossed from a crash and all. They also found small parts left from the people that were on the flights that hit the twin towers. Were those a hoax, too? You really are a piece of work. JuggerNaught 09-15-2004, 04:45 PM well i'll chose to believe people I know rather than people that offer alternative explanations on websites. dont believe either. look for yourself. common sense tells you that you cant shove that aircraft into that hole and if you could it would have broken through the back wall, if it were high off the ground and didnt disturb the grass, debris would have went into the other rings or the courtyard. use your brain for something besides a filling for your skull. | ||