Since when is Osniping the capper considered *bad*

Well Polaris,

SOME of us are offering constructive criticism of the "rules" that are out there, but in the end, you are right.. Do as you will on your own server..

Just for the record, I still fail to see how sniping a light defender is any different than dropping long range mortars on them, or disk spamming, or whatever. It *DOES* help when it turns his attention away while a capper comes through, which *IS* necessary when there are 4 light D, maybe a heavy D, and 2-3 turrets sitting there on say, emerald. As someone who likes to cap more often than not, there's nothing more annoying in the old days than seeing 5-6 snipe lasers come up from light defenders. We never saw "no D sniping", though it sucked for those of us who were basically boned on pubs because 1.) everyone loved to play D and 2.) getting O coordination on a pub was usually difficult.

So rant away, and employ the rules as you guys see fit.. Maybe once in a while think about all the variables before going apeshazbot though..

KI

Got to page two, when I saw Bamelin posting dumb stuff. FYI he's from Planetside and he was without a doubt THE WORST CR5 (basically a guy who can do global team announcements) ever. He had no idea how to play the game, no idea about strategy, and basically every global he ever made did nothing but screw up the team.

So you can pretty much take anything Bamelin says as completely worthless and just not bother arguing with him. He sucked at Planetside and, as you can all tell, I'm sure he sucks at T:V. Especially considering his kill stats in PS sucked, can't imagine he's worth jack in a faster paced game like T:V.

Can someone find a list of servers where o-sniping cappers during a standoff is encouraged so these people will leave the rest of us alone?

You mean a fun server, where you can play as you want? :roller:

I have thought plenty about it and I am just sick to death of people telling us how to play on *our* servers.

And for he record, if you read the rules for our server you will see that the o-sniping restriction is only for sniping cappers during a turtle. You want to snipe other times, fine, I dont care. But for the love of all that is holy PLEASE stop complaining about the effing problem and do something about it. We did. We put guidelines down for our servers. If you or others want to counter that with servers of your own, go for it.

You mean a fun server, where you can play as you want? :roller:
Sure. post your list pls.

Stay off my servers noob.

i dont think he's wrong this case, flags being grappled around are perfect grounds for osniping. for just the reason he stated: grappling gives the players so much movement, to get in the spam is annoying.

it will also be a competition technique, guaranteed. why not open it up to pubs.

i think to expect this game to be played with the same t1 server rules is just silly, naive, and frankly, noobish behavior.

oh wait, they are talking about o-sniping the capper...nevermind.

Nice try with your lame ass child analogy of a sniper , for your information there is a thing called tactical sniping also.
I wouldn't expect you to understand this with your narrow minded approach to snipers.

Try playing Renegades sometime , there you will find the best tactical snipers in tribes. You won't though because you won't get them to just let you take the flag and cap it , these guys will actually eat you up. They won't stand there they will snipe you while their flying up , down backwards doesn't matter even when their skiing.

So when the mod comes out , bring your base playing ass in there and see.

--Fatal

I see. You have amazing rhetorical skill.

I dub this the "Oh yeah? Well, I eat shazbot! How do you like that?" method.



"Tactical" sniping is an interesting distinction, though. Nobody minds getting sniped if it's within a "proper engagement range," right? Like you and some guy trade discs at about 150m, he cuts his jets and pops your head. That, I think I can respect, because you had your fair chance to fight.

listen polaris i wont snipe any cappers on your server dont worry just coz u ask me to

but the rule is about as silly as stating u cant mortar your own flagstand
or u are not allowed to use the buckler on a heavy during standoffs

O-sniping, turtling, low population base raping . . . these are all scenarios typically frowned upon by the competitive community when it comes to public games, not competition match-ups. Allow me to explain that perspective.

Many competitive players, and many pub players for that matter, will agree that the flag exchanging hands is more exciting and thus more fun than long standoff situations. Many bases are designed in such a way that standoffs can be indefinite. This slows down a public game, and can result in the death of the server as people start to leave in frustrated boredom.

Hence the 'rules'. These are of course more like guidelines of pub sportsmenship.

No Turtling. The biggest one if you ask me. During standoff situations, stay outside to give the other team the chance to return and keep the pace of the game moving.

No O-sniping. Personally I agree that O-sniping should be allowed with the exception of sniping a flag carrier during a standoff situation. If they are being good sports to stay outside, then you should be a good sport and go to a place where they have a chance to kill you as well. Every other scenario explained earlier (taking out turrets, harrassment, etc) I agree is a viable pub tactic, and the people who complain are typically defenders who don't wish to have to leave their haven. Of course, nothing irritates me more than an Osniper who *isn't* effective, because it makes me think that spot on the server is wasted, when someone could join and actually be useful.

No low-population rape. When the server is just starting to fill up, there's really no challenge to destroying the bases. It really does nothing except inflate the ego of the destroyer, while frustrating the defender who has to repair, and hope to suit up before the destroyer is back to do it again. Instead of Capture the Flag, it evolves into a game of "I'll destroy, you repair!" which is only fun for half the people.


Again, it's totally about sportsmenship. Be courteous to your fellow player, even if you're trying to be annoying. :)

osniping was to prevent excessively easy shots, where a players movement was much more predictable, ie, skiing on a trajectory.

there IS no immediate trajectory anymore, there is grappling, and osniping will become a viable technique, and against expert grapplers, maybe the preferred technique to stop the "grappler turtle"

you've already heard the bitch about people running away with it on cavern.

sheesh.

You all bitch too much.

O-sniping is part of the game. Yes it is annoying if you are on D/Capper, but you also gotta realize that skiing across the whole map only to be taken down in 3 seconds by chaingun and disc whores defending the flag carrier is also pretty annoying. I see nothing wrong with using the tactics and weapons the game is providing you with. While I agree with the no turtle = no o-sniping rule, you gotta realize that imposed rules like these are what make the rest of the gaming community view the tribes "elite" as huge jerks.

i wish TRD was a noob.

The jerkry in this thread is amazing. Start locking down vet servers if the new guys dont get it. Of course people have to learn some of the un-written rules, but i have seen the dumbest post's in this thread from people that are supporting o-sniping.

This isn't Tribes 1 or 2... Funny that there's allready rules for a new game... :D

This isn't Tribes 1 or 2... Funny that there's allready rules for a new game... :D


It's called "common sense", not rules for a New game.

This isn't Tribes 1 or 2... Funny that there's allready rules for a new game... :D

You'll find most of the same tactics apply, hence why the rules are already in play.

This isn't Tribes 1 or 2... Funny that there's allready rules for a new game... :D
if it has "Tribes" in the title, there are already rules even before anyone plays it.

if it has "Tribes" in the title, there are already rules even before anyone plays it.

Sorry, don't see it that way. You don't use your old key to start your new car, even if it's the same model... :D

Sorry, don't see it that way. You don't use your old key to start your new car, even if it's the same model... :D

No but the speed limit didn't increase because you bought a sports car either.