Since when is Osniping the capper considered *bad*

its only going to get worst when the games released

I dont think there should be any rules about O sniping. Here's why, say the USA was chasing some guy that has a super secret backpack that he stole from the us and we send our our best killers after him. we would send a sniper to make things easy for the incomming attack force. why make them chase they guy when the sniper can just pick him off and the team swoops in and grabs there super secret backpack back.

Does anybody here hear the iraq soldiers yelling back at the incoming force to not snipe cause its lame? nope its all tactic's and your team is doing what ever it takes to get that flag back. Im sorry but the sniper rifle was'nt made for someone to sit at base and hope for the best its was ment for O and D purpose. The only rule i realy go buy is the no rape base unless so many players are in.

.........What the eff?

.........What the eff?


LOL

D-ScytheHell Kia']I dont think there should be any rules about O sniping. Here's why, say the USA was chasing some guy that has a super secret backpack that he stole from the us and we send our our best killers after him. we would send a sniper to make things easy for the incomming attack force. why make them chase they guy when the sniper can just pick him off and the team swoops in and grabs there super secret backpack back.

Does anybody here hear the iraq soldiers yelling back at the incoming force to not snipe cause its lame? nope its all tactic's and your team is doing what ever it takes to get that flag back. Im sorry but the sniper rifle was'nt made for someone to sit at base and hope for the best its was ment for O and D purpose. The only rule i realy go buy is the no rape base unless so many players are in.

:rofl:

I do enjoy all the people who say "you must be a newb if you like Osniping and Turtling, and you must have never played a competitive day in your life"

several things:

1.) As part of a "beta test", you're supposed to help the devs, in theory, determine map balance, strengths and weaknesses, etc.. limiting the gameplay in this way to make the beta pubs reminiscent of the T1 days doesn't help the map balancing, loadout balancing, etc. It's going to happen in a match, and why shouldn't it.

2.) Anything that can cause a distraction for the D on the flag should be OK.. That includes an O-snipe.. Ammo isn't unlimited anymore for the weapon, I feel it's a viable solution.. Hell two out of 4 of the maps you can o-snipe from defending the flag it's so frikken small :)

There's nothing worse on a pub than seeing a HOF, 4 or 5 light to medium D, 4 turrets, a rover gun manned, and you're a lone capper..

I'm sure this originally spawned as I remember out of light d people getting pissed that they couldn't sit there and pick off incoming cappers without fear

Ahh, but KI, you should be capping as a team in a pub.. :roller: get the point?

As for turtling, yeah, I can see the dislike.. they should put some type of shield that allows you to pass but not the flag if that's what the consensus is

KI

And im sure they get just as many laughs as they ban you. Enjoy your newbie pubs

Obviously they will ban you. Sadly O sniping a Nazi admin is a one shot chuckle. Mind you who wants to play on a Nazi server anyways? =)
I'd rather play the game as intended ... not according to some anal admin, who can't handle being pwned by a sniper.

Really it's all about pride. Some players just can't accept that a sniper pwned them.

Hell in towards the end of Tribes 1's glory days I remember even D snipers get banned by admins simply because they got owned.

It's a shame really. If the devs didn't want a weapon that was meant to be used in stealth ... it wouldn't be included in the game.

But that's ok have fun on your servers with your artificial ruleset and be proud of yourselves that no O sniper can touch you for fear of being bannzored.

There are plenty of servers out there that don't impose their "play the game MY way" whines on the Tribes population. Personally I'll be on a server that plays the game as intended.

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^^^^ man has a point, I remember even D snipers get banned by admins simply because they got owned. Yeas why is this, you post up your server ip so that peeps can join your servers and then after a few round someone is kicking you ass on the server so you get banned. why cant you accept getting killed by clanless person or a newb and have to go the route of the ban. damn its only a game. your not ment to play the match and go untouched cause your the admin. I dotn O snipe in 5150 out of respect to other players that dont do it due to the silly rule and to not hear everyone cry about NO O SNIPING god!!!. you get tired of the cry babys. Thats as bad as in Enemy Territory when i would spawn camp, hey man you show me a rule book that came with the game that says i cannot try to stop the attacking force's leaving there base and i will stop. but till then Game on man if you get sniped with that flag in tow then tough shazbot, Im trying to help my team win not watch as you do loops around base with your grapple hook.

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Take out flag carriers (don't want to get sniped out of the air? Go inside biotch)

The cappers stay outside to prevent turtling. We could turtle, but how much effing fun is that???

']Being a successful O sniper (meaning one that helps his or her team) takes a hell of alot more "skill" than being a HO base raper or a D sniper with laser sight permanently set on the flag stand.

You're effing insane...O sniping is harder than being a good HO....HAHAHAHAHAH.

o sniping is valid, just like base rape with less than 5-5. What makes them the same?

They are both stupid and lame tactics that dont win maps.

Yeah O sniping should be allowed. I mean the gun doesnt stop firing when you get close to a enemy's base-whoever came up with the idea that sniping the enemies D is a real big baby.
You going to kick me me for spin sniping the flag carrier? Because Ive done it. If your D cant get the sniper then you need to practice.
Bunch of whining tick turds.
If you was in a real war you would never survive. pfft whaaaa my pussy hurts from O sniping.

As for turtling, yeah, I can see the dislike.. they should put some type of shield that allows you to pass but not the flag if that's what the consensus is
This is the first sensible remark that has some input on how to solve an issue. I hope the DEV's are listening.

As for O-sniping: it's in the game, deal with it. Yes I got sniped as an FC and I couldn't give a damn. Hell, I was even standing in the doorway of a base, so I was just laughing when it happened. I call that a good shot and though luck for me and my team.

Sadly turtling in T:V is made easier since the concussion grenade was canceled. I used it to end turtles on T2 pubs by knocking the flag of the FC and unfortunately that is now no longer possible. T2 actually gave tactical solutions to end turtling with the concussion grenade, cloacking pack and sensor jammer pack. Since these have been canceled, turtling must be tested and apparently allowing O-sniping will almost garantee a turtle-> please O-snipe some more! :p

And every l33t VET here should remember as was mentioned before that this game is NOT on how great you play in competition. It is a bonus if it is suited for competition but to be successful it MUST be fun to play on a pub as probably >90% of gameplay will happen there!!

These artificial rules and nazi admins will definitely spoil it for new players who get kicked for something that was put in the game and MUST be tested in this beta TEST. It is not about how you want to play this game, but you need to test the game with all options on how it plays as is.
If the O-sniper is decisive in gameplay, you can inform the DEV's that something must be done about it, but just making up this rule just because you had it in T1 and T2 is just effed up. You don't really get what a beta test is about and definitely are just completely unaware of what normal gameplay is. But then again, some of you have so deluded yourself in that you are the only one who is able to decide what a fun factor is of a game, that everyone must feel the same or not play at all preferably.
And to be honest, I've not in one game felt O-Sniping to be a problem up till now.

An O-sniper is a lot easier to stop/distract than baseraping heavies, but nobody seems to mind them. That's just weird :s

Attention noobs: please continue to o snipe cappers in pubs.

I look forward to never seeing you on a worthwhile server.

Thanks for playing.

Attention noobs: please continue to o snipe cappers.

I look forward to never seeing you on a worthwhile server.

Thanks for playing.


I need the practice on my kick/ban skills anyway.

I'd say T:V has balanced the rifle enough for the O snipe ban to be lifted. Even if it worked properly it would be fine with the ammo limitation.

no, it wouldent.no one but O snipers and HO mortar spammers use the INV station currentelly. the ammo is no longer limited, as 1. remote inv stations dont take up the pack slot, and 2. no one will miss them from the base. they are just a small detail to remember if you want to osnipe like an ass.

i have no problem with o sniping as it counters D-SNIPING perfectly which nobody ever complains about

the only thing thats truly stupid is sniping some1 on an inventory but that is a mapmakers fault

considering "fun" or etiquette" argument
this being an unwritten rule people will interpret it like they see it ie u stick with it and some1 dont making it pointless

on a side note
the other day i played on a server with 8 vets vs me and 7 (other :) ) noobs
after the score went to 16-0 i managed to get the imperial flag (winterlake) and thus breaking the happy chaincapping the other team was practicing with 4/5 people vs no defense whatsoever
having no team mate with a clue i decided to turtle in base for the remaining 4 minutes
resulting in a cap in the last minute 1-16
omg the abuse i got lol this really made me laugh
these people who were clearly vets were owning pathetic noobs who like played for the first time and then they throw ettiquette at me?
it shows u fun or etiquette are not very good to regulate a game

in my opinion its mapmakers who should consider lameness and try to avoid it

is sniping the flag carrier before he gets back to his base valid?

is it possible to make a mutator that reduces (or even reverses) damage when a flag carrier is sniped and he is x meters from his base? would be funny if osnipers took damage instead of the capper.

Proximus, turtling like that is bad, regardless of the score. thats 4 minutes you could have been trying to catch up, four minutes you could have been on defense, four minutes of peoples time that you wasted. no one likes pubbie turtling.