Since when is Osniping the capper considered *bad*

']You pretty much hit the nail on the head of why these stupid rules come into play on some servers. The turtling issue is just a convienient way to justify the real reason O Snipe is banned on some servers -- bruised ego's. That said not EVERY O sniper out there is a n00b. *cough*

Bamelin[VRT]
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You effing swipe an inventory station to bring with you o-sniping.

You have nothing to boast about.

who REALLY uses inv stations on pubs anyway? i give a location, i say its up, i tell people to use it. no go. currentelly, the only use for the inv station on pubs is to spam, pure and simple. those people who DO use it for constructive purposes are in the minority.

Nice try with your lame ass child analogy of a sniper , for your information there is a thing called tactical sniping also.
I wouldn't expect you to understand this with your narrow minded approach to snipers.

Try playing Renegades sometime , there you will find the best tactical snipers in tribes. You won't though because you won't get them to just let you take the flag and cap it , these guys will actually eat you up. They won't stand there they will snipe you while their flying up , down backwards doesn't matter even when their skiing.

So when the mod comes out , bring your base playing ass in there and see.

--Fatal

:ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

You effing swipe an inventory station to bring with you o-sniping.

You have nothing to boast about.

Quickly now! This man needs a whaaaambulance!!!!!

Bamelin[VRT]
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wow, that was just lame.

in q2ctf u had the 'no-bfg' rule
something that never worked and always ended up in whining and complaining
I liked rail only or "instagib" :D

On a pub I do not o-snipe. I will disc snipe turrets I see out in the open, but not with a sniper rifle.

However if I see the capper go in for a cap and I have a sniper rifle, you bet I will shoot his ass before he reaches the flag, in the off chance that a teammate of mine will take the enemy flag before they pick up the flag before they cap it. It's the same thing as spamming the enemy flagstand with disks/nades/mortars. Also if the enemy capper is all alone and skiing around and I'm near him, instead of discing him I might whip out the sniper rifle and peg him, then return it.

I think the only O-sniping that shouldn't be allowed is taking annoying potshots at LD or cappers when you or your teammates are never going to return it after the shot.

I'll be waiting on the mod that fixes the grappler, removes the sniper rifle, brings back forward jetting, allows flag throwing beyond five feet, makes the speed pack useful for something in passive mode and turns the knife into a bouquet of flowers.

the only valid reason people seem to have is that o-sniping encourages turtling

the only map where turtling can be a real problem is winterlake

so its a MAP problem which u CANT sort with a rule the map needs tobe sorted (mapmakers are u reading this?)

also im in favor of a standoff timelimit say 6 mins max then flags return

the only valid reason people seem to have is that o-sniping encourages turtling

the only map where turtling can be a real problem is winterlake

so its a MAP problem which u CANT sort with a rule the map needs tobe sorted (mapmakers are u reading this?)

also im in favor of a standoff timelimit say 6 mins max then flags return

First of all you can't time limit the holding of a flag! Secondly turteling has and always will be somewhat of a problem in this game. Telling someone not to do something isn't going to stop it! Threatening to throw them off your server isn't gonna stop it either. These people who are the biggest complainers of turteling, do it too. It's natural to seek refuge from enemies trying to get their flag back. That is why i have no problem with it. I just fight harder and figure away to go get the mole.

--Fatal

O-Sniping is only lame during a stand-off and when you're just spamming the sniper rifle to up your stats, not helping you're team in any way. Any other point in the game, whether taking out defenses or picking off the flag carrier a split second before he touches up for the cap, is perfectly legit and doesn't detract at all from the game, except maybe to the defenders who chose to stand still behind the flag stand waiting to pounce on any potential cappers.

First of all you can't time limit the holding of a flag! Secondly turteling has and always will be somewhat of a problem in this game. Telling someone not to do something isn't going to stop it! Threatening to throw them off your server isn't gonna stop it either. These people who are the biggest complainers of turteling, do it too. It's natural to seek refuge from enemies trying to get their flag back. That is why i have no problem with it. I just fight harder and figure away to go get the mole.

--Fatal

its been done in other games
in t2 i played on servers where they had that on
say 1 minute after both flags are grabbed theres a global msg that says "antiturtle rule comencing flags will return after 6mins"

Your missing something here .... a small faction of the tribes community has made up this unwritten rule about O-sniping. The Renegades Mod players who are all in here at this time, don't play that kiddy shazbot ...you have our flag we are gonna get it back any way possible , including O-sniping! We don't play this game with a bunch of dumb ass unwritten rules. We play the game and learn how to over come , not cry about or make a rule about you can't snipe me to get your flag back!

These people who change this game to suit them selves and force this on all others, then call them selves Veterans and do this in the name of fair play? Are nothing more than selfish. These people also are some of the most condescending people i have ever seen in tribes. They flame every post you make , they call you a noob, even though you'v played this game since the beginning days of T1. So really, what does that say about these self induced egotistical, maniacle, self proclaimed veterans? I certainly don't want anything to do with them! How could playing with them be any fun? Quit trying to change this game to suit your selves and just play!

It's fun to shoot that capper, who thinks he got away or is running around his base, in an attempt to rub your face in the fact he has your flag! Let the O-sniping begin and continue!

--Fatal


Amen !

Johnny X']I Osnipe cappers when they grapple whore on cavern
fair is fair

grapple ownz you bitch

Your missing something here .... a small faction of the tribes community has made up this unwritten rule about O-sniping. The Renegades Mod players who are all in here at this time, don't play that kiddy shazbot ...you have our flag we are gonna get it back any way possible , including O-sniping! We don't play this game with a bunch of dumb ass unwritten rules. We play the game and learn how to over come , not cry about or make a rule about you can't snipe me to get your flag back!
--Fatal

you mean you place one of those uber laser turrets? I find it a bit funny that you would say that renegades mod players don't play that kiddy shazbot when it's the renegades mod that has so many toys it makes inspector gadget look like a caveman.

This has been a debate for quite some time, but mostly in the Classic forums. It’s a lame argument. Very lame.

Snipers are by their very nature an offensive position. "Defensive Sniper" is an oxymoron, and should never exist. Banning, kicking, harassing, offensive snipers is childish. If you cant deal with them in normal game play, pub or not, then you need to learn how to play the game better. If your defense players cannot handle a sniper or two harassing them then you need a new defense.

Personally, I take great pleasure in hunting snipers down and showing them that they have made a mistake in thinking that they can harass my teammates with impunity. If you don’t like snipers then make it a point to hunt them down and kill them every time they show up on your side of the map. Banning them, kicking them, or making rules against them is the height of stupidity, and you have been doing this without noticeable affect since Tribes 1. Its about time you realized that you are wasting time and effort that could be more useful in playing the game and learning how to deal with them.

LuckyEddie

you mean you place one of those uber laser turrets? I find it a bit funny that you would say that renegades mod players don't play that kiddy shazbot when it's the renegades mod that has so many toys it makes inspector gadget look like a caveman.
yeah why do you need TEAM strategy instead of 1 guy capping while the rest wait to mine/disk ppl on the flag

you mean you place one of those uber laser turrets? I find it a bit funny that you would say that renegades mod players don't play that kiddy shazbot when it's the renegades mod that has so many toys it makes inspector gadget look like a caveman.

I really like how you guys, try and change what people are saying to suit your selves! The items in the renegades mod are not the issue here , now is it? What the issue is here , is you and all your cronies only want to disc dual , plain and simple. You also want to cap the flag time and time again with out any impedence what so ever. The fact that some one can stop you from taking or capping really pisses you off! Well i dunno what game you have been playing with your Vetran friends , but the game i have been playing for over 6 years , in pubs and matches, has been to stop someone from capping your flag and cap theirs.

If you can't spend 1 minute to figure out how to get around a turret , your in the wrong game buddy. Maybe it's your to lazy to actually apply any skill or thought to your play, whatever the case is, that is your demon. Just don't make stupid ass rules and try and shove them down others throats.

--Fatal

your right. you are so right. give this guy a custom tag, along the lines of tribes master. this guy is a genius.

This has been a debate for quite some time, but mostly in the Classic forums. It’s a lame argument. Very lame.

Snipers are by their very nature an offensive position. "Defensive Sniper" is an oxymoron, and should never exist. Banning, kicking, harassing, offensive snipers is childish. If you cant deal with them in normal game play, pub or not, then you need to learn how to play the game better. If your defense players cannot handle a sniper or two harassing them then you need a new defense.

Personally, I take great pleasure in hunting snipers down and showing them that they have made a mistake in thinking that they can harass my teammates with impunity. If you don’t like snipers then make it a point to hunt them down and kill them every time they show up on your side of the map. Banning them, kicking them, or making rules against them is the height of stupidity, and you have been doing this without noticeable affect since Tribes 1. Its about time you realized that you are wasting time and effort that could be more useful in playing the game and learning how to deal with them.

LuckyEddie

Very nice post!

--Fatal