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JumboJack 09-13-2004, 12:17 AM -o sniping
-turtling
-grappler turtling
-burner spam
-pod whoring/spam
-constant base rape on small maps where defender gets owned by repair pack recharge timer
Did I miss anything else that makes the gameplay not fun?
}x{ EViL JiM 09-13-2004, 12:26 AM :notsigned
Go to a different server.
RedSpider 09-13-2004, 12:28 AM -o sniping
-turtling
-grappler turtling
-burner spam
-pod whoring/spam
-constant base rape on small maps where defender gets owned by repair pack recharge timer
Did I miss anything else that makes the gameplay not fun?
Find a good server and these problems should go away.
kyuss 09-13-2004, 12:31 AM -o sniping
-turtling
-grappler turtling
-burner spam
-pod whoring/spam
-constant base rape on small maps where defender gets owned by repair pack recharge timer
Did I miss anything else that makes the gameplay not fun?
as much as i dislike many of those things, they can all be countered with individual skill. and a little help from your team wont hurt.
FantasticDamage 09-13-2004, 12:33 AM The pod is easy to take down for a medium or a light. Dunno about a heavy, never play as one.
KnightMare 09-13-2004, 12:37 AM and the rocket in T2 could easily be countered by the flare.
Shinigami 09-13-2004, 12:39 AM The pod is easy to take down for a medium or a light. Dunno about a heavy, never play as one.
Easy? If the pod pilot doesn't suck he should be able to kill a med in about 3 or 4 seconds.
FantasticDamage 09-13-2004, 12:46 AM Easy? If the pod pilot doesn't suck he should be able to kill a med in about 3 or 4 seconds.
Guess I've never met a pod pilot that doesn't suck then. The aiming lag on the pod allows anyone with any skill to evade the projectiles. The slow movement of the pod allows you to catch spinfusor MAs relatively easy (compared to MAing a jetpacking light or medium).
The pod is a nuisance, and can easily distract a concrete deffense or a en-route capper, but given the time and effort can be taken down with relative ease.
Shinigami 09-13-2004, 02:15 AM What is aiming lag? It fires exactly where your crosshair is placed, even if you change 180 degrees in between two shots. The projectiles are rather fast and it's constant spam with unlimited ammo. If you honestly consider it easy to evade, you must not have ever dealt with anyone skilled.
Pachacutec 09-13-2004, 02:21 AM -o sniping
-turtling
-grappler turtling
-burner spam
-pod whoring/spam
-constant base rape on small maps where defender gets owned by repair pack recharge timer
Did I miss anything else that makes the gameplay not fun?
i dunno, its just been a tough day but in the last few days i've come to think t:v doesn't have it for me.
i'll add to this
- annoying and essential inv system
- small weapon-numbered armors
- bumpy skiing
- useless knife
- no vehicle station
i dunno, something just hasn't been clicking lately.
.footloose. 09-13-2004, 06:03 AM I just wish the vehicles would vanish from the game. Everything else, i'm used to.
discuit 09-13-2004, 06:22 AM Easy? If the pod pilot doesn't suck he should be able to kill a med in about 3 or 4 seconds.
I concur 100%.
ZWidow 09-13-2004, 06:48 AM -o sniping
-turtling
-grappler turtling
-burner spam
-pod whoring/spam
-constant base rape on small maps where defender gets owned by repair pack recharge timer
Did I miss anything else that makes the gameplay not fun?
All true, you forgot when using rover to respawn near enmy base and starting the BT-loop with 3HO.
Oxide 09-13-2004, 08:52 AM -grappler turtling
-pod whoring/spam
These two are amazingly annyoing when a skilled player is doing it. The Pod is a real barf-machine, it should have limited ammo and be forced to reload a clip every 5 or 10 seconds. Infantry have limited ammo, so should vehicles.
It's funny, when I first heard about the grappler in T:V I praised the idea, thinking this was a revolution for Tribes gameplay. Now that I've seen it in action I hate it, cheapest tool ever. Of course it's mostly on Cavern where this crap happends - worst map in the beta without a doubt, a good reason to find another server.
mc-fine 09-13-2004, 09:04 AM The pod is whimpy enough. Can't keep up with cappers. Two discs to put down, wide body to catch discs. Shoots projectiles instead of accurate lasers like the Shrike. If you nerf it anymore there would be no point to having it in the game.
}x{ EViL JiM 09-13-2004, 09:04 AM What is aiming lag? It fires exactly where your crosshair is placed, even if you change 180 degrees in between two shots. The projectiles are rather fast and it's constant spam with unlimited ammo. If you honestly consider it easy to evade, you must not have ever dealt with anyone skilled.
He means you have to lead with it... And depending on your system performace/ping that isn't always very effective.. (lead lag changes as ping/fps fluctuates) but for someone who has both FPS/ping it can easily take down a capper who is stuck on his route (i.e. evading means death by chasers)
GrEaSy Sp00n? 09-13-2004, 09:35 AM Grappler turtling... o_0
Shinigami 09-13-2004, 10:32 AM He means you have to lead with it... And depending on your system performace/ping that isn't always very effective.. (lead lag changes as ping/fps fluctuates) but for someone who has both FPS/ping it can easily take down a capper who is stuck on his route (i.e. evading means death by chasers)
Yeah, I agree with that, but the netcode oughtta be vastly improved before release anyway.
The pod is whimpy enough. Can't keep up with cappers. Two discs to put down, wide body to catch discs. Shoots projectiles instead of accurate lasers like the Shrike. If you nerf it anymore there would be no point to having it in the game.
Wimpy enough deffense wise, not ofense wise. It kills too easily. It has absolutely no trouble dealing with anything not outrunning it if the pilot's ping is decent.
If you just slowed the rate of fire, that'd be enough in my opinion. The scout in T1 was very effective on D with only about one fifth the rate of fire, some more concussion, and a lot less manuverability. I realize that's a bad comparison, but I think the pod would still be quite useful.
Fatal Move 09-13-2004, 10:49 AM -o sniping
-turtling
-grappler turtling
-burner spam
-pod whoring/spam
-constant base rape on small maps where defender gets owned by repair pack recharge timer
Did I miss anything else that makes the gameplay not fun?
Good job , you just explained Tribes Vengeance! He's actually awake!
If you find a server where none of this happens , what would u do there? coz there wouldn't be any T:V being played on it?
--Fatal
JongyFong 09-13-2004, 11:34 AM I can't stand people that call O-Sniping cheap. In T1/T2 it was only cheap if the player was somewhere out-of-bounds where they couldn't be seen, but this problem has been fixed in T:V where nobody can venture out-of-bounds. I was a sniper in the 2 previous Tribes games, and if you ever got 3 or 4 skilled snipers defending a flag it was nearly impossible to cap it unless you had a lot of distraction and timed some kick ass capping route perfectly. O-Sniping is the only effected way to take out D-Snipers, and its frustrating to deal with but part of the game.
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