[Feedback] Heavies (onoes), skiing and knockback

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Rosco-SS
09-01-2004, 09:32 PM
I posted about heavies here:
http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319462

Could you guys please move this discussion there?
KP

Yea. That post KP covers some points we are considering here. But if you could, review my post and Pyro's to find the ones that are not answered. I mean, I don't expect you to write a damn novel like I did, but I would just like some reassurance that you are looking into 'most' if not all of our suggestions for balance.

Thanks.

Joemomma5000
09-02-2004, 01:25 AM
Failed physics lately?
There is no air resistance in T:V, therefor all objects, no matter how heavy, fall at the same rate. The heavy will therefor not accelerate any different when just sliding down a hill.

Ok call me crazy, but if you go to a hill in the winter time, the fat kids always win the race. You put 4 nerds vs 4 fatties in a wooden toboggan, and I'll let you bet on the nerds, and we'll see who ends up with the $$$. I mean we dont just move vertically, you're accounting for gravity but completely ignoring momentum. It seems that since the heavy weighs more, they counter-acted it's momentum by changing the angle of the thrusters to work more against gravity than with momentum; whereas the light armor is more tailored to use and further the momentum it originally acquires from hitting the first hill. Since without ground resistance (skiing), should the heavy not then accelerate downhill faster than the light?? I mean granted, I failed physics a long time ago, but why do avalanches move faster than skiiers? Why would a bowling ball roll down a hill faster than a basketball?? I dunno, as I see it, you drop a heavy from the heavens and he hits an embankment, he's gonna be effing rocketing out of that transition, not stopping instantly.

FishStix
09-02-2004, 01:30 AM
i think heavy armors shouldn't be knocked back nearly as much by any explosive weapon, however, i do like that they are slightly more skiing impaired

CombatWombat
09-02-2004, 01:37 AM
experimental already stated there is no air resistance in T:V.
Therefor all objects, no matter their mass, will fall at the same rate. Skiing down a slope is falling. You only accelerate at a fraction of g, but its still falling.
Your sled racing example is flawed, it has both ground and air friction which shifts the advantage to the heavier object. T:V has no ground friction when skiing, and no air friction.
All the armors are having a hard time converting thrust into lateral movement, this has been generally agreed upon and they are increasing it a slight bit for us.

It seems that since the heavy weighs more, they counter-acted it's momentum by changing the angle of the thrusters to work more against gravity than with momentum;The heavy has less air control than the other armors (who also do not have a whole lot). This has little to do with his greater mass though, they just didnt give him alot of sideways thrust.