WOW useless Gunz

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mastap504
09-01-2004, 02:08 AM
Ive been playing beta now for several days and the three most useless guns to me are the rocket pod (POS), grappler, and the buckler. I hardly ever see anyone using any of these three weapons and when I do the people cant score any kills with any of these weapons. I seriously think that adding ammo to the grappler was a retarded idea and they should allow it to have infinite ammo. But anyways I have yet to see anyone whos good with either of these three weapons on any1 of the maps..

RegisteredFruit
09-01-2004, 02:10 AM
I'm deadly with the grappler. 15 shots = 15 kills for me.

JodoFett
09-01-2004, 02:10 AM
Rocketpod is VERY useful in the right hands, but it could use a bit of a buff.

If you think the grappler is useless than you really missed something.

Buckler could also use a bit of a buff in it's thrown damage, but it is also very useful for a variety of things.

Witch
09-01-2004, 02:10 AM
:rofl: So in your opinion being able to gain extra speed and being able to drastically change your direction sucks, because you can't get frags with it?
:lol:

And how about buckler. It deflects, and you can kill with it, it just takes skill. Not everything is meant to be mastered after "few days of play".

triple
09-01-2004, 02:11 AM
:rofl: learn to use them

ZenTseTse
09-01-2004, 02:12 AM
the three most useless guns to me are the rocket pod (POS), grappler, and the buckler.

oddly, many of the best players tend to really use those 3 alot.

maybe you want to examine this again :)

filsinger
09-01-2004, 02:15 AM
i was expecting this thread to be about the blaster. :shrug:

Phantomstranger
09-01-2004, 02:15 AM
the grappler has limited ammo mainly because of the cavern map. I am guessing they have other maps like it so they can justify it being ammo driven. there was another thread where we were talking about how useless it is on the other maps. one of the other maps is a city like map. that looks like it would be useful on.

the rocket pod is pretty effing worthless all together. it's really too effing hard to hit someone with it. what they should do is have it kinda veer in the direction of the target but not make it heat sink it. would make it a hell of a lot more usefull against vehicles and players. right now the only thing you can really hit with it is stationary equipment or players.

the buckler I dunno. it seems like it has a lot of potential but it's one of those weapons you have to learn the quirks of it. it's pretty hard to hit a fast moving light with it though.

mastap504
09-01-2004, 02:17 AM
Maybe I do...How about u come play with me in a server Jodo and show me how useful these 3 weapons really are? I have honestly not played against any1 who was really good with either of these 3 weapons. I really wish I could get better at them bc all three of these weapons were really cool ideas maybe you could teach me how to use em when we play Jodo =)

JodoFett
09-01-2004, 02:18 AM
The grappler is VERY useful on all of the maps.

The rocketpod is fairly weak, but I have seen it used recently to be quite effective at flag clearing and even in fighting.

JodoFett
09-01-2004, 02:19 AM
Maybe I do...How about u come play with me in a server Jodo and show me how useful these 3 weapons really are? I have honestly not played against any1 who was really good with either of these 3 weapons. I really wish I could get better at them bc all three of these weapons were really cool ideas maybe you could teach me how to use em when we play Jodo =)
Get on some of the better servers like Dualrock, Impulse East, Hell, Team Fusion, and some more, and you will see most if not all of these used pretty effectively.

slogg
09-01-2004, 02:22 AM
the only loadout that i use is disc,buckler,nadelaucher with epack

i loves me the buckler :)

and the grapple is just the shit, it takes some getting used to but it is THE shit

mastap504
09-01-2004, 02:24 AM
Yea I really like the buckler and grappler jus wish I was better at using them =( Ill try those servers out and see if what ur saying is true

JodoFett
09-01-2004, 02:25 AM
My favorite loadouts right now are Rocketpod, Buckler, Grappler and Disc, Rocketpod, Grappler.

JodoFett
09-01-2004, 02:29 AM
I use the rocketpod a bit in this movie:
http://www.badmofo.insanestyle.c om/movay/adventure10.avi

Nothing super amazing, I mostly hit stationary LD, but it can be used for otherthings as well.

slogg
09-01-2004, 02:29 AM
i also find myself wanting to use light more, i like the speed and the feel of it, just hate the weakness of it

[-mIze-]
09-01-2004, 02:31 AM
I'm getting pretty frickin deadly with the Rocket Pod lately, it's extremely useful if you know WHEN and HOW to use it. Because of this, it won't be a heavily used weapon, like the buckler, but those who specialize in it will be very effective. The best cappers are going to be crazy direction-changing grapplers. Just give things a try, if you pick it up for 5 minutes and go "this sucks wah" and never give it another chance, what do you expect. Take the time to get good with it, all of the weapons have the potential for being "mastered".

mastap504
09-01-2004, 02:44 AM
Yea I love the quickness of the light but in T:V it jus seems way too weak and I tend to die way too much when Im in light armor vs medium...I think all the armors need to be rebalanced. Heavy jus doesnt like it can stay alive as long and same for light, medium seems fine to me though. Jus watched the video Jodo and yea some of those rocket pod shots were pretty insane. Im gonna keep practicin tho...

JodoFett
09-01-2004, 02:51 AM
i also find myself wanting to use light more, i like the speed and the feel of it, just hate the weakness of it
Light is my preferred capping armor now, and it definately wasn't before.

enDless_Delirium
09-01-2004, 02:58 AM
Light is my preferred capping armor now, and it definately wasn't before.

Same here, I switch to medium every so often but I love the light.

Buckler and Grappler are far from useless, buckler needs some tweaking, grappler is perfect as is.

I'm getting decent with the grappler and all I can see is the future potential for when I get good. I'm nowhere near Jodo or Striker's level with capping yet (still e-pack reliant :/) but even I can use the grappler to my advantage (nothing like circling around a tree and discing your chaser in the back :D )