[Request] Universal Demo Player

Unfortunately it's almost certain that demos recorded with one version of the game won't work with a later version, and vice versa. That applies to the different versions of the Beta, and between the Beta and the final release as well.
My question is that would it be possible to make a separate application that could play back recordings regardless of their version?

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My question is, how long would it take to create something like that?

My question is, WHY?

What purpose would that serve?

Like demos made during beta matter at all.

I don't think so.

If they do demos anything like T2, it'll be the code saying whats happening, and where, and the GAME has to render it all down, and replay what happened.

If the demos are made like that, they're small, and not like huge avi's of every match.

The demoplayer to play demos like that would just be a ghetto version of the game.

Yeah. Demos aren't movie files. They're the game engine re-rendering everything based on stored data rather than current input. Thus something that could back-play old demos would have to include every version of the game engine and all other files from every version you wanted it to play.

In t2, you could just DL the old .exe file and replace the new one. Then you could play old demos :o

eventually the game wont need updates anylonger and everyone will use the same version anyways so, why all that work for not much in return (i think)

Beta doesn't include all the maps or deployables in any one version. Thus you'd need all the missing files from all the different versions of Beta.

His request was not just for beta CF... If you read the thread you'll see that Ant said any patches would effect the game in the same way. I don't want a patch 6 months after release that makes all demos for the first 6 months worthless.

So keep an unpatched copy of the game around? Seems fairly simple to me.

This is a good idea.

I can remember trying to watch some recent demos in WC3 so I could learn better, only to have the game patched the day after. And this is probably a year after release.

This, of course, is a good idea.

But lets face it, they would have to put forth a good deal of resources at this to get it done right. Resources I'd much rather see go to other areas. . .

well we can always hope... which is something you cling to after seeing the finalized box cover

This, of course, is a good idea.

But lets face it, they would have to put forth a good deal of resources at this to get it done right. Resources I'd much rather see go to other areas. . .
This isn't necessarily something IGA has to make...

My question is that would it be possible to make a separate application that could play back recordings regardless of their version?

not possible, sorry. shoutcast it if you want this, cheers.

The point is that something that has to play back demos has to have all the art, maps, and models that the normal game needs. In addition it needs the game engine to interpret the recording...

What do you end up with? Yup. You end up with T:V? A standalone player application isn't. It's the whole game.

The point is that something that has to play back demos has to have all the art, maps, and models that the normal game needs. In addition it needs the game engine to interpret the recording...

What do you end up with? Yup. You end up with T:V? A standalone player application isn't. It's the whole game.
It would probably require a copy of T:V, I give you that. I just thought it might be possible for it to store the differences between versions. Not the whole files, just the parts where they're different. Anyway, we got a definite no on it, so the point is moot.

My question is, WHY?

What purpose would that serve?

Like demos made during beta matter at all.


Only reason I'd want to see this is if you could do demo's from T1 and T2 from T:V

basically the easiest way to do this would be to allow the ingame recorder engine to export to AVI