Will there be Flag discing in T:V?

I'm just glad there's no flag discing in Tribes Vengeance http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif

I'm a movable flag fan. The best part of T2 base was the dropped flag dances out in the field with one or two of you and one or two of them, and those situations were made more fun by the ability to shoot the flag to yourself. At T:V speeds though, I don't think it's a huge deal to drop it.

Ok so if you grapple the flag in the field it is put instantaneously on your back - then it's not worth the risk of having the (static) flag in the field, hence the flag will be returned asap and flagplay will be very undynamic. Anyone else see this as a problem?

Ok so if you grapple the flag in the field it is put instantaneously on your back - then it's not worth the risk of having the (static) flag in the field, hence the flag will be returned asap and flagplay will be very undynamic. Anyone else see this as a problem?

Nope. It's not like you can grapple it from 300 meters away. You need to get pretty close.

Plus you won't always have the hook.


It hasn't come up yet b/c it's so easy to keep base, but if naked cluster becomes an effective strategy on a map then it's back to static race play.

I'm with Knightmare on this. I can't believe that they made the flags non discable... If anything it would be awesome to disc the flag as a grapple was racing towards it, and ruin the fruitcakes' plan. And Knightmare is right, there were countless times when I was zooming towards a stationary flag and I would not have gotten it if not for a well place disc infront of it [launching it backwards into my path mid air]. It was just a nice sub skill to the game, and I don't see why you would take it away.

[edit] I also disagree with them taking away mine discing... They could have nerfed it in various ways, but it was still a fun sub skill to work on.

I can't think of one reason why the flags have to be static. It's so much more fun to attack the flag and fight for the flag when it's not at the base.

This thread sucks.

flag discing isn't in t1... you guys don't seem to bitch about that at all.

flag discing isn't in t1... you guys don't seem to bitch about that at all.
The ones bitching are t2 players.

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I feel my example showed pretty clear that it wasnt just a gimmick but a real tool and not just something that works out if you're luckly.Agreed. There were areas where discing the flag was cool. There were also areas where it wasn't cool (discing it into a corner, or watching it do st vitus dance while half the server shot it). We decided the bad outweighed the good. To some extent that will always be just an opinion.

In T:V, instead of discing the flag you have the option of grappling it when it's in the field. You don't have to bring the grappler with you, and in fact most people don't. But if you do, and you're very skilled with it, you can snag a dropped flag from out of the air, or off the ground from 20, 30, 40, or even 50 meters away. Hitting a flag stick with the grappler while you're moving is not at all easy. If the flag is still moving it's like getting a MA on a thrown grenade.

Plus, when a capper throws your flag to his teammate, you can intercept the pass with your grappler. Try that with a disc. ;)

If anything it would be awesome to disc the flag as a grapple was racing towards it, and ruin the fruitcakes' plan.There are other options. I think it was Zigma the other day who stepped in front of my grapple when I was about to snag his flag in the field, and i grappled him instead of the flag. Then he disc'd me in the face. There are always options. I really haven't seen people returning the flag because of fear of the grappler. Who knows if that will change tho.

My only concern in all of this is the game becoming a one-weapon loadout with the Grapple becoming an absolute necessity like the disk launcher is.

The ones bitching are t2 players.

Or the ones that like a non-static flag?

I can talk to players who played.. at a much higher level than you, I might add.

Full of yourself, aren't we?

mmm delicious irony! :slurp:

At the moment, if you grapple the flag once the grapple hits it the flag is immediately moved to your back.

damn, it would be cool if you could grapple-slingshoot a flag in the field. Ah well, guess I'll just grapple and throw it :)

While I enjoyed flag discing in T2, I think I'll enjoy the static flag in T:V. I vote to keep it static.

While I enjoyed flag discing in T2, I think I'll enjoy the static flag in T:V. I vote to keep it static.

I dunno how many matches I've had in T2...
hundreds

and I don't give a flip about the flag discing :p

overall, it was more negative than positive.. it could completely stop gameplay if people disced into the side of a base.. arguing about spamming the flag or how it's "lucky" is wrong, however. spamming it can be bad for either side, and it's not lucky when you're coming in at 300kph and you disc it right into your hands.. it takes awareness and aim to do such a thing, and it happened a lot

stayput flag is more positive than negative.. but the flag finder and grapple tend to even it out or even push it to negative, imo. grappling a flag in the air sounds cool, much like discing a movable flag into your hands -- but now you have to deal with the randomness/chance of someone coming in with a grapple and stealing the flag. it's not neccessarily "even" between the LD and capper.

anyway, I hope the defense can't return with the grapple -- is this possible? kind of nullifies any skill a person has at picking up flags, and again adds in the chance of the LD person having a grapple or not..