Sp!nfusor Salad 07-21-2004, 01:20 PM At this time from T2 release most thought they were pretty damn good as an addition but later it seemed to turn on us....
Right now Imposter's Review shows the bomber is being damn lethal and *1 MAN* YIKES!, make it 2 like T2s, hell T2 people thought the bomber was overpowered and it needed a crew... 1 man just seems nuts... Pod seems to be really well done though and ive yet to see the complaints for that...
Tanks seem to be really really crappy as well... perhaps they need some boost... flippy tanks isnt cool...
I think vehicles need to be a part of tribes badly, its simple inovation that gets rid of the "beating the dead horse waves of HO" I like to see HO waves and be like....WOW SOMETHING NEW!... which is great since T2 Devolved into T1 simplicity and T1 was already old beans...
Imposter seems to have a valid point however....make the bomber tactically valid as a 2 man needed to operate vehicle, increase HP and tweak bombs allowing it to be a substitute over HO...
same with the tank but gives it some advantages do the above 2 options...
Amadeus 07-21-2004, 01:23 PM It was also mentioned that both the bomber and the pod were pretty easy to chain out of the air. So while it may be powerful, an aware D can take it out before it even gets to the base.
Sp!nfusor Salad 07-21-2004, 01:25 PM It was also mentioned that both the bomber and the pod were pretty easy to chain out of the air. So while it may be powerful, an aware D can take it out before it even gets to the base.
yeah then you have the problem of them being useless... bumb their armor and make them 2 man should at least give it the resemblence of being team oreinted.
Ixiterra 07-21-2004, 01:26 PM I saw the one video with the bomber thing. Didn't see the bombs, but the side chainguns were tearing the shit out of people. Way too powerful looking.
Ixiterra 07-21-2004, 01:26 PM yeah then you have the problem of them being useless... bumb their armor and make them 2 man should at least give it the resemblence of being team oreinted.
Making it 2 man makes it effectively useless.
Sp!nfusor Salad 07-21-2004, 01:27 PM Making it 2 man makes it effectively useless.
if its practically dropping mortars and has a CG weapon plus a decent peice of armor its far from useless..... the T2 bomber was pretty well done.
UNS used both the tank (yes the T2 tank OMG) and bomber in novel strats to beat decent teams (GeeZ, DoM, enD)
Amadeus 07-21-2004, 01:27 PM I saw the one video with the bomber thing. Didn't see the bombs, but the side chainguns were tearing the shit out of people. Way too powerful looking.
Wasn't that from single player? SP bots are a lot weaker than normal players...
Ixiterra 07-21-2004, 01:46 PM if its practically dropping mortars and has a CG weapon plus a decent peice of armor its far from useless..... the T2 bomber was pretty well done.
UNS used both the tank (yes the T2 tank OMG) and bomber in novel strats to beat decent teams (GeeZ, DoM, enD)
For pubs it's completely useless to make it 2 man. I don't like the idea of some bomber vehicle anyway, but it's probably too late to make that complaint.
Wasn't that from single player? SP bots are a lot weaker than normal players...
:shrug:
T2 vehicles were completely unbalanced. They were either insano overpowered (Shrike/Cycle) or completely pointless.
Sp!nfusor Salad 07-21-2004, 01:54 PM Im all for alternative assault methods like tanks and bombers to compliment the old HO waves.....
know why because HO waves after hundreds of TWL matches by themselves is like eating Vanilla icecream several times a day for years....
its just plain decrepid....
give me something knew to put on my vanilla.
americanjoe 07-21-2004, 02:35 PM from the sizes of the maps and the descript of the vehicles, they seem more of an after thought ... like, oh ya .. we have vehicles too! ...
vehicles brought a new aspect to Tribes in T2 ... they may or may not have been all useful, but with the size of the maps and gameplay that T2 was designed around, for the most part (until classic) they worked.
hopefully in open beta they will tweak things that improve the usefullness of vehicles. but with the speed of sking, and the smaller maps ... what use will they have but as an after thought?
It's still closed beta. Everything you've mentioned can be adjusted for balance.
VaporTrail 07-21-2004, 02:40 PM the T2 bomber was pretty well done.
Given that it was absolutely outclassed by the shrike, and required at least three people to even atempt to be useful... yeah.
enDless_Delirium 07-21-2004, 03:19 PM Given that it was absolutely outclassed by the shrike, and required at least three people to even atempt to be useful... yeah.
it made a good "quick attack" Transport though. Which is how they used it to beat us. A heavy and medium for assaulting, and a light for the grab. Not an unbeatable force, but still good.
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