An in-deapth look at Vengeance armor design

That original concept art actually looks fairly similar to the T2 armors already.

i love those drawings tacky tricky


i hope destos got in touch with you

That original concept art actually looks fairly similar to the T2 armors already.
I agree. It's far too streamlined to fit in with the Retro look in T:V.
It's still a good inspiration though.

That original concept art actually looks fairly similar to the T2 armors already.

Err... personally i would disagree...

http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/marmor_t12.jpg

As for suggestions for Tacky, i think he's doing a great job so far, and i'm quite jealous of his design ability (damn arts students. :P). However, i think there are a couple of things which need to be taken into account.

As the title of this thread states, "an indepth look at T:V armor design" is indeed in order. Tacky's designs look great, but they dont currently match the other armors for T:V.

What i'm talking about here are the things that the different tribal armors have in common. For example, the medium armors all have the same shape of shoulder-guard. They all have some form of "over the shoulder piping" which (presumably) adds provides their jets with fuel. The weapon mounts on the heavy armors are all shaped the same way. The light males all have some form of strapped on breast-plate. Etc.

My suggestion would be to grab the image Lucius has posted at the beginning of this thread, print it out, and spend a few minutes studying it. It's very easy to notice the similarities in armor design between the different tribes. This is not meant as an insult towards Tacky, merely as constructive criticism, which i believe will aid in the results of this project fitting nicely into the design-style that T:V is using. After all, isn't that the point? :)

Is anyone willing to take some screenshots of the various DS skins in Tribes 1 and 2 for inclusion here?

http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/thumb_t1larmor.jpg (http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/T1_larmor.jpg) http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/thumb_t1lfemale.jpg (http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/T1_lfemale.jpg)

http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/thumb_t1marmor.jpg (http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/T1_marmor.jpg) http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/thumb_t1mfemale.jpg (http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/T1_mfemale.jpg)

http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/thumb_t1harmor.jpg (http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/T1_harmor.jpg)

Nothing beats reference.
:)

er.. OK, might i remind you guys that the design for t1 and t2... are very similar... BY COLOR!!! the armor design for 1 and 2 are fairly different. and seeing as how T:V happens roughly about ....ermmm.......waaaaaaay b4 t1 and apparently it is closer to the core. i think the armor will look slightly diffrent...AND no way in hell am i going to copy that art work that is found in t1 manual (you know, the armor that Data uses for his sig)

I'm trying to be some what original here. using the idea that the armor found in the t1 manual looks like a knight. and that they "practice a philosophy derived from the Zen Buddhist teachings of ancient Terra" . you see, I'm trying to combine the two time lines and cultures of England and Japan. And the helmet.. I haven't even come close to what it should look like. it's just there to take up space for now.

ps, what kind of helmet design would you guys suggest?

I'm trying to be some what original here. using the idea that the armor found in the t1 manual looks like a knight. and that they "practice a philosophy derived from the Zen Buddhist teachings of ancient Terra" . you see, I'm trying to combine the two time lines and cultures of England and Japan. And the helmet.. I haven't even come close to what it should look like. it's just there to take up space for now.

ps, what kind of helmet design would you guys suggest?


As far as I'm concered you're lead concept artist. In that, you're not taking requests, merely critique. I've liked everything I've seen from you thus far so keep up the good work.

I like what I've seen from your helmets -- a lot. Personally my favorite has been that first one you did, the more roman one, and while the latest one is ok, the more samurai one, I think the first one matches what I envision of the diamond sword style more. That's just my opinion, you can take it where you want to go.

I'm working on a DS heavy...so please tacky work on something else..like the light or medium :-P

EDIT: after looking at the other heavies..it seems as though this drawing is more of a medium...ill post it when its completed and then you can put in detail like you'd want it.

http://andeburu.studioink.org/tribes/dsproject/marmor_t12.jpg

Anyone else notice the samurai-ish helmet design of the T1 DS medium skin there?

That helmet skin in general seems like a good direction to go for the helmet (or at least one of them). I'm not really liking the cockatiel look some of the helmet concepts have had so far. It just looks odd.

does someone have a site or something where i can post my pic? and then put the URL here?

Thanks for posting those images, Knuckle.

make a derm one then ill comment

:closet:

no derms for you. >:F

does someone have a site or something where i can post my pic? and then put the URL here?
yep.
Use this:
http://upload.serverseed.com/
FOR TW USE ONLY

yep.
Use this:
http://upload.serverseed.com/
FOR TW USE ONLY
understood
thanks
ok..here it is..if it worked...
this was a quick sketch....legs r weird for some reason...im not that good btw
http://upload.serverseed.com/pictars3/dsmedium.jpg

I'm trying to be some what original here. using the idea that the armor found in the t1 manual looks like a knight. and that they "practice a philosophy derived from the Zen Buddhist teachings of ancient Terra" . you see, I'm trying to combine the two time lines and cultures of England and Japan. And the helmet.. I haven't even come close to what it should look like. it's just there to take up space for now.

ps, what kind of helmet design would you guys suggest?

You're doing a really great job so far. The designs you've come up with are both original, and they also have something of the same aesthetic that makes the Diamond Sword what they are (partially that "myserious" look..., etc). I'll repeat what i said before though, in that i think that maybe you should try to get them to fit the style of the other T:V armors a little closer.

As for helmet designs, personally i really love the helmets from the T1 armors (the fully covered faceplate with dark recessed glowing eyes), and would be a bit sad to see them go, however if they don't mesh with the rest of the armor you're designing, well... c'est la vie. The first style that you came up with i also really liked (eyes covered by a blast-plate).

I think to keep with the feel of the DS, all of the helmets should have at least some portion of the face hidden/covered. Looking at the other T:V armors though, the faces are entirely covered almost all of the time anyway, though. Hmm... maybe we could get away with the knight-helmets after all...

No problem Data. :) I'd do the T2 DS armors today, only personally i really didn't like the direction the DS went in T2 (the molded armors and that "raidiance" motiff), so i'd rather avoid it for T:V. :)

Anyone else notice the samurai-ish helmet design of the T1 DS medium skin there?

That doesn't really look anything like a samurai helmet to me. I'd say it looks much closer to a helmet you'd see a knight wearing. You know, like a person who would ride a horse and go jousting. Think suits-of-armor-in-an-old-castle, that kind of thing.

Ya but look at the cresent.

Yes, the crescent on the forehead is something that you would see in Samurai armor. However, the helmet, along with the rest of the armor, is predominantly "knight" styled.