Ball Game Type

PyroGuNx*
05-16-2004, 02:36 PM
From PlanetTribes
Ball Game Type:
The ball game type is EXACTLY like bombing run in UT2k3/UT2k4. Except you have jet packs.

Now, i am not sure how many people hold my view; but while i think the bombing run from ut2k3 had it's enjoyment, there was a major downfall. When you have the ball, you can't use any weapons. If it is exactly the same as stated, then that's a significant disadvantage. Having mortars/discs/etc/ being blasted at you when all you can do is fly around (partially) like a chicken with your head cut off doesn't sound too appealing.

I can see the reasons for it, however, as it allows for more teamwork, but i still think it takes away from the game. But perhaps allowing the player to have their full armaments isn't what should be allowed either. What about the ball carrier is only permitted to carry 1 weapon or something?

Just wondering what other peoples thoughts on this are.

Amadeus
05-16-2004, 02:41 PM
From PlanetTribes


Now, i am not sure how many people hold my view; but while i think the bombing run from ut2k3 had it's enjoyment, there was a major downfall. When you have the ball, you can't use any weapons. If it is exactly the same as stated, then that's a significant disadvantage. Having mortars/discs/etc/ being blasted at you when all you can do is fly around (partially) like a chicken with your head cut off doesn't sound too appealing.

I can see the reasons for it, however, as it allows for more teamwork, but i still think it takes away from the game. But perhaps allowing the player to have their full armaments isn't what should be allowed either. What about the ball carrier is only permitted to carry 1 weapon or something?

Just wondering what other peoples thoughts on this are.

= forced. I thought Tribes is about teamPLAY, not teamWORK. It would make a whole lot more sense if you could use weapons. You'd have to pass in order to win anyway...

Zoolooman
05-16-2004, 02:42 PM
It's not EXACTLY like it, because you don't have translocators and such.

I think the T:V ball should count and be thrown with the hand grenade key.

VaporTrail
05-16-2004, 02:43 PM
I don't think the intent is to make it exactly like a UT gametype.

IIRC the base loadout for ball is Disc, Grapple, Buckler. Given just those weapon options, I think being able to use weapons while having the ball is a must. Disc is the only one I can see limited... Grapple for swinging and such, Buckler for defense and defensive (last ditch) attacks.

Disc is just offense, which isn't really necessary when you have the ball... as you're supposed to be concentrating on getting rid of it somehow... generally to a teammate or a goal. Not on owning someone else in a duel.

PyroGuNx*
05-16-2004, 02:51 PM
...I think being able to use weapons while having the ball is a must. Disc is the only one I can see limited... Grapple for swinging and such, Buckler for defense and defensive (last ditch) attacks.
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I agree on having weapons when you have the ball (obviously).

Good point on the grappler and buckler as a must as well- at least having those.

And when i was emphasizing exactly I didn't mean absolutely exactly. Obviuosly there are exceptions since they are different games. I was meaning exactly conceptually. One of those concepts being the ball carrier has no weapons.

Theta
05-16-2004, 02:57 PM
The planettribes interview is really retarded. It's not really an interview, because in the answer section, the writer uses "they" which means he took what the interviewee said, and rephrased it.

BinderAJ
05-16-2004, 03:51 PM
On Unreal you had a gun to pass the ball.

Perhaps, ss a ball-carrier, you could us the grappling hook, the shield gun and the passing gun.

Remember that also the ball carrier regenerated health...giving him an advantage agaisnt weapons. Enabling offensive weapons in such conditions could be exploited by players in a bad way.

Regards
BinderAJ

poisonspider
05-16-2004, 04:03 PM
I think everyone in the ball gametype could be forced to have a grappling hook :D
Players without the ball can use the grappling hook or other weapons in there loadout.
Once you get the ball your only weapon is the grappling hook.
Aiming on a player then throwing the ball should toss it right to him, like in that Tribes 1 football mod.

Anyways, im not saying thats how it should be. but I think it would be fun like that :P

Edit: hell just remake the tribes 1 football mod with tackling and all, And ill be happy