a little help with interpolation

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This makes me agree with the people who say Tribes is dead... when people are willing to argue in support of the thing that's killing it.

Can't you fucks understand? IT RUINS TRIBES!
Show me where anyone in this thread said interpolate has a positive impact on tribes. I think everyone is pointing out that it is not a cheat.

This makes me agree with the people who say Tribes is dead... when people are willing to argue in support of the thing that's killing it.

Can't you fucks understand? IT RUINS TRIBES!


Have you taken a fucking look at the public server list lately?
Tribes IS dead. C&H is OUT, DM is OUT, F&R, D&D and fucking every other gametype (which im sure exactly 5% of this forum knows of) except for CTF is NOT PLAYED ANYMORE. maybe what, 200-300 people playing at a time, at PEAK hours no less.

not to bash a game i enjoy, but at this point a statement like "<blah blah blah> is ruining tribes" is a fucking joke.

face youre a gayplant.

don't forget there's only like 3 full base servers :|

What if it was simply not shipped with this because of the fact that when this game came out there were still a majority of people on 56k and there for needed the interpolate set to 64? Is it still a cheat or just patching the game for optimal performance for broadband?

This makes me agree with the people who say Tribes is dead... when people are willing to argue in support of the thing that's killing it.

Can't you fucks understand? IT RUINS TRIBES!

LOL. Yes, Interpolate killed Tribes. It's not because it's 5+ years old or because of all the renegades players that keep LT in a base pub rotation...

Also, P Masta Flex is an excellent example of my previous point.

Is it possible for the server to check a client's interpolate setting?

fine. Say its not a cheat. Still doesnt mean it should be legal. Call it an exploint. And regarding 120fov being a setting, hidden just like the interp settings. if you honestly believe this, fine, theres no way youll be convinced otherwise b/c it's obvious you just want to win the internet argument. The impact 120fov has on gameplay is approaching zero when compared to changing interpolation settings. You can compensate for 120 by moving your view 15 degrees left and right. You can compensate for interpolate by years of playing tribes and practicing with leading and your individual pings. That does not seem an equal balance to me.

As for saying ski scipts are the same because it allows anyone to ski well? :rofl: Yes, having something tap the spacebar for you is OBVIOUSLY all it takes for a person to be able to ski well. Nothing about know the terrain and any routes or anything. It's all built in to the script. Thats just grasping at straws.

Like I said, cheat or not, it should not be legal or acceptable. I guess its a moot point, but I just find it sad that people would actually defend this.

Like I said, cheat or not, it should not be legal or acceptable. I guess its a moot point, but I just find it sad that people would actually defend this.

I find it sad that after this entire thread, you still don't seem to understand what it does.

For the record, as an LD I think 120 FOV makes a very large difference. I don't know how you can say increasing the default by 1/3 doesn't help, but then again, I don't know how you can say interpolate makes anyone able to use a chaingun like a vet.

Both are variables that you couldn't change through the regular 'options screen'.


I think this point of mine needs a little correction. Interpolate isn't a cheat from the designer's point of view. When you're playing Half-Life and you type 'godmode 1' in the console you just change a variable. Still, it remains a cheat, because of the effect.


Without starting to beat the shit out of the poor dead horsie, all there is left to say is that IG is hopefully smart enough to either hardcode the interpolation value, or make it auto-adjust itself depending on the user's ping.

Interpolation will not be an issue in T:V.

And I've never heard of a godmode that worked in MP in any game...

For the record, as an LD I think 120 FOV makes a very large difference. I don't know how you can say increasing the default by 1/3 doesn't help, but then again, I don't know how you can say interpolate makes anyone able to use a chaingun like a vet.
Interpolate makes shitty chaingunners dangerous and skilled ones far overpowered. The worst thing about interpolate is the way it has changed the game so that people constantly chain, chain, chain even when a disk would be more appropriate. It's extremely annoying.

Interpolate makes shitty chaingunners dangerous and skilled ones far overpowered.

Not true.

The worst thing about interpolate is the way it has changed the game so that people constantly chain, chain, chain even when a disk would be more appropriate. It's extremely annoying.

Agreed.

quad damage + mega shield + mega health = god mode

rofl... i bet 98% of everyone here uses interpolate.

Oh look, another interpowhine thread. Tribes Talk has been incredibly boring lately.

Use search and tell me how many times I said that we need a sticky about interpolate.

Don't assume that because Tycho doesn't agree with you that he doesn't understand what interpolate does. Most people that are strongly against it understand exactly what it does.

Personally, I wish it could be a feature that could be embraced but it does skew ballance.

apoth, you make me moist
:heart: :)

fine. Say its not a cheat. Still doesnt mean it should be legal. Call it an exploint. And regarding 120fov being a setting, hidden just like the interp settings. if you honestly believe this, fine, theres no way youll be convinced otherwise b/c it's obvious you just want to win the internet argument. The impact 120fov has on gameplay is approaching zero when compared to changing interpolation settings. You can compensate for 120 by moving your view 15 degrees left and right. You can compensate for interpolate by years of playing tribes and practicing with leading and your individual pings. That does not seem an equal balance to me.
Look, Tycho, you don't seem to understand that what makes a cheat a cheat is not dependent on how *effective* it is. That type of logic is fundamentally flawed for reasons I believe I have already touched upon.


As for saying ski scipts are the same because it allows anyone to ski well? :rofl: Yes, having something tap the spacebar for you is OBVIOUSLY all it takes for a person to be able to ski well. Nothing about know the terrain and any routes or anything. It's all built in to the script. Thats just grasping at straws.
Again, read what I said above. It's not grasping for straws. I gave logical reasons why interpolate is not a cheat, you have yet to give me one. If anything, *you're* the one grasping for staws in order to qualify interpolate as being a cheat. Again I will use the statement you posted and modify it to show you why it's flawed for the reasons you wish to use it for.

"As for saying <interpolate is> the same because it allows anyone to <chaingun> well? :rofl: Yes, having something <more accurately reflect the server state> for you is OBVIOUSLY all it takes for a person to be able to <chaingun> well. Nothing about know[ing] <how much to lead> and <having a good aim>. It's all built in to the <interpolation off setting>. Thats just grasping at straws."


Like I said, cheat or not, it should not be legal or acceptable.

See, now that's a reasonable statement :)
Find and demonstrate a way to effectively and accurately determine if a player is using interpolate, and have that procedure be difficult to work around, and I will be in support of you. Until that time, I will be against such a proposal, simply because I do not believe in the naiveness of an "honor code."

I guess its a moot point, but I just find it sad that people would actually defend this.

The only thing I'm defending is the status of interpolate as not being a cheat. That doesn't mean I don't want it removed from the game. I find it sad that people don't understand the distinction between a cheat and a very effective change in net settings.