[T:V] The answer to cheats

Eventually cheaters get caught. Crafty loader or no.

T:V cheaters will be fined the cost of one copy of the game when we globally ban their unique ID and they have to buy another copy of the game to continue playing.

Eventually cheaters get caught. Crafty loader or no.

T:V cheaters will be fined the cost of one copy of the game when we globally ban their unique ID and they have to buy another copy of the game to continue playing.
Thats good to hear.

wasnt that supposed to be the case for T2?

Does Punkbuster affect performance much?

Eventually cheaters get caught. Crafty loader or no.

T:V cheaters will be fined the cost of one copy of the game when we globally ban their unique ID and they have to buy another copy of the game to continue playing.
omg yes <3

DooM!']Does Punkbuster affect performance much?
no it doesn't, at all... and i'm on a p3 750

So what you're saying is you're going to deny someone the right to play a game they bought, based on what criteria? How exactly are you going to prove anyone did anything to begin with? Word of mouth? Oh... there ya go. Good idea.

Wait, no, that's about the lamest shit I've read all year long, and this is the end of the year and that's coming from a DEV...

T:V cheaters will be fined the cost of one copy of the game when we globally ban their unique ID and they have to buy another copy of the game to continue playing.

You're going to have the access to ban whoever you want from the game itself?

I don't like that.

It's not that I don't trust you guys with the power, nor that I don't trust you with your methods of catching cheaters.. it simply opens up the door to people who are playing fairly getting punished. I'd rather see 5,000 players cheat without punishment than see one person who played fair get screwed.

Leave the bans to the server admins, the ladder admins, and the community itself.

If they don't spend the time on cheating now, then they will have to spend the time on cheating later.

No matter what crafty loaders there are a screenshot won't lie.

As far as the 'you cant trust the client' thing goes, it doesn't matter. We can still have the screenshots stored on their computer assuming that it will take them better than 24-48 hours to perfeclty photoshop all of the images. Accusations usually occur within 3 hrs of the match anyway.

Sure it's possible but who is going to want to painstakingly photoshop all the images taken, AFTER hacking a recently re-encrypted file, just so they can cheat?

On top of that, the servers that enable the upload feature would bypass the client even being able to photoshop them.


If you're going to hire punkbuster, that's cool. As long as i dont have to pay more than $3 extra for it.

I'm sure the criteria would be 'running a known cheat program', and i'm sure there'd have to be some sort of appeal process. It's possible someone can fuck you over by sending you an exe or "virus" like file that would install the cheat-loader in such a way that you would be caught with it even though you weren't actually using it.


bri, i'm pretty sure everyone knew what you were talking about from the beginning :)

I understand the frustration and anger towards cheaters.It seems that everyone is hellbent over clientside cheats but what about serverside cheats.
How is it that the server can be trusted with admins who abuse their power.

I'm more concerned with the server cheats then the client cheats.

As screen shots go if you think people will voluntarily send in screen shots LOL please.Plus a ss can be altered in many ways,such as time and dates.




I love it when cheaters complain about cheaters :shrug:

Serverside cheating is called a "mod". If you don't trust the admin, don't play on the server. It won't stay popular long if everybody suspects the admin of fiddling with stuff..

T:V cheaters will be fined the cost of one copy of the game when we globally ban their unique ID and they have to buy another copy of the game to continue playing.

Yes! It should hurt to be a cheater!

Like I said serverside is a bigger problem and a server can be altered without renaming the mod with programs such as TRICON =cheatcon.

Eventually cheaters get caught. Crafty loader or no.

T:V cheaters will be fined the cost of one copy of the game when we globally ban their unique ID and they have to buy another copy of the game to continue playing.
While certainly a nice thought, I don't see how you guys could ever do this. Too many complications, not always proof of cheating.

Like I said serverside is a bigger problem and a server can be altered without renaming the mod with programs such as TRICON =cheatcon.

:banging:

One thing of note with cheaters. It's possible to catch alot of cheaters en masse via smart programming, by having something that detects the most popular cheat programs. A good example of that would be Blizzard with the recent mass bannings they've done. Catching a large amount of people using popular map hacking software via software means within the game.


Something of a similar means would potentially be possible in any other game, including T:V.

So is cheating going to be once again the Dev's problem? One in which the community bears no responsibility for condoning all the "everybody does it", "I know a guy", and the ever popular "I tried it and it didn't help that much"?

I think you misunderstand the point targetboy. I would say whatever anti-cheat protections come with the game as a dev supporting thing would be a supplement to standard community protections/etc. Certainly leagues/ladders would actively be watching for cheating regardless of what any dev team did.

You're going to have the access to ban whoever you want from the game itself?

I don't like that.

It's not that I don't trust you guys with the power, nor that I don't trust you with your methods of catching cheaters.. it simply opens up the door to people who are playing fairly getting punished. I'd rather see 5,000 players cheat without punishment than see one person who played fair get screwed.

Leave the bans to the server admins, the ladder admins, and the community itself.


You're one of those liberals that doesn't belive in Capital Punishment aren't you?

I doubt it. It's just a tad bit rediculous to ban someone based on unprovable criteria.

When you pay money for something, you shouldn't have to worry about some dipshit company banning you from playing, based on something they cannot prove in the least.

You guys just need to shut the fuck up and let the DEV worry about this shit. You play no active role in determining what happens, and most of the time you guys just look like fuckin idiots tryin to be smart... just shut the fuck up already.

You guys just need to shut the fuck up and let the DEV worry about this shit. You play no active role in determining what happens, and most of the time you guys just look like fuckin idiots tryin to be smart... just shut the fuck up already.

Oh shit. We should all be ashamed. We were just contributing our thoughts to the forum titled "Tribes Talk". WTF were we thinking?!?