Help with eMachines and Resource Confilct

Dark Volcanic
08-17-2003, 11:39 PM
Okay, I'm working on my friends eMachine (shit, I know, but his dad bought it for his b-day a few months ago) and I need some help. He just bought a Radeon 9000(he doesnt have much cash), and I told him how to install it. I made sure he didnt ESD it or his comp, and that he installed all the drivers properly. It wouldnt work. Every time he'd start to use the card's (ie. load a game, etc) GFX Acceleration, it would have an initialize error, or come up with resource conflict.

Comp Specs:

Athlon 2000+
384MB DDR RAM
OS: XP Home

I need to know how to find and change the resource management on his machine, any ideas?

(And for those who say, "WTF, and you're A+ Cert'd?", I got cert'd over a year ago, and my worst area was IRQs. I havent used the knowledge a lot, so its very faded.)

Data
08-18-2003, 12:03 AM
Don't turn off ACPI. It knows more about IRQs than you do.

Dark Volcanic
08-18-2003, 12:46 AM
Fucking double posts.

Dark Volcanic
08-18-2003, 12:46 AM
Its enabled already.

The device manager shows two Radeon 9000s

IRQ 11-
|-Radeon 9000(!)
|-Radeon 9000-Secondary

I cannot change the IRQ settings in properties, it shows a message along the lines of "There are not enough resources to run this device, free the resources to use the device. I'm about to search google for a mobo jumper setting to see if there is anything that might deal with this.

Dark Volcanic
08-18-2003, 12:58 AM
No go. No way to disable onboard AGP. The part that confuses me is that it is showing 2 devices. Its taking just one IRQ. I know that the conflict lies in that problem, but I have no clue what could be causing that problem.

Data
08-18-2003, 09:18 AM
Remove them both using Device Manager, then refresh. Install drivers as prompted.

:shrug:

iNVAR
08-18-2003, 09:24 AM
disable onboard, you have to.

Data
08-18-2003, 09:41 AM
Onboard?

Am I blind, or did he not say anything about it having onboard video?

Edit: OK, "onboard AGP". It must be too early, cause I read that like he was trying to disable the AGP slot. Wow. :ugh:

Dark|Dragon
08-18-2003, 11:01 AM
I always get owned by IRQs, I can't use my onboard sound or network because they conflict with video card and this causes games like Tribes to crash since it uses all three of those at the same time.

iNVAR
08-18-2003, 11:12 AM
don't buy a shitty system and it won't have shitty irq conflict probs.

Dark Volcanic
08-18-2003, 01:31 PM
don't buy a shitty system and it won't have shitty irq conflict probs.
Thanks for not helping. Get the fuck out.

I've removed both devices, and refreshed. It simply reloads both devices automatically. eMachines dont allow you to disable onboard graphics, so I'm at a freaking loss as for what to do. I found the conflict. It was address, the the Radeon was using 0x0000c000-0x0000c0FF. The onboard was using 0x0000c000-0x0000cfff. I disabled the onboard, and the whole system hangs at the winXP loading screen. I'll probably have to restore because safe mode wont even run now. :/

iNVAR
08-18-2003, 01:37 PM
Thanks for not helping. Get the fuck out.

I wasn't talking to you, you stupid shit, and if you weren't such a fucking member you'd realize that 1) I started this forum with Scourge 2) I moderate it 3) I got the position because I'm helpful and 4) I did post a useful response. I can't make it any plainer than day: you have to shut off onboard. It's not possible to have both running, and if they gave you an AGP slot, then there's an option to disable onboard somewhere that you're not seeing. But I assumed too much intelligence on your part when I simply said "disable onboard, you have to."

But because you felt like posting a flame response to a post that wasn't even directed towards you, I don't believe I will help you anymore. Good job going with your auto-flame twitch reflexes. You win. Good luck.

Ranger1
08-18-2003, 02:02 PM
Okay, I'm working on my friends eMachine (shit, I know, but his dad bought it for his b-day a few months ago) and I need some help. He just bought a Radeon 9000(he doesnt have much cash), and I told him how to install it.

Did you even read that part invar? He has no choice.

As for the listing in device manager, with ATi cards I think that is normal for the card to be listed twice, one as a secondary, I have never seen it with Nvidia cards though. Honestly I don't know why it does it but every machine I have used running ATi cards including mine lists the card twice.

iNVAR
08-18-2003, 02:06 PM
Did you even read that part invar? He has no choice.

As for the listing in device manager, with ATi cards I think that is normal for the card to be listed twice, one as a secondary, I have never seen it with Nvidia cards though. Honestly I don't know why it does it but every machine I have used running ATi cards including mine lists the card twice.
I have a 9700 pro, you're right, it's listed twice.

And yes, I did read it, but my response still stands. You can't have 2 AGP devices in the same computer. As such, the one onboard MUST be disabled. Maybe it has some sort of auto-detection and shuts it off when something's plugged into the slot, but it doesn't seem that way. It should list what the device is having a resource conflict with though...

Dark Volcanic
08-18-2003, 03:49 PM
Nope, just says not enough resources. Its really pissing me off. The address conflict, when I try to disable the onboard, simply makes the machine hang. I guess I need to find a spot where I can allocate 4096 address locations for the onboard. :/

Data
08-18-2003, 03:50 PM
:rofl:

You do realize you have to disable onboard video from the BIOS, right?

Dark Volcanic
08-18-2003, 04:50 PM
No option for that in BIOS, already checked.

Data
08-18-2003, 05:00 PM
No option for that in BIOS, already checked.
Then you're screwed.

Or rather... your friend is screwed.

Dark Volcanic
08-18-2003, 05:56 PM
:( K, thx anyway then. :clap: for eMachines suck-assedness

Data
08-18-2003, 06:23 PM
You may be able to find a custom BIOS for that machine if you Google for it. No promises.

That would let you disable the onboard video and continue installing the Radeon.