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FireStorm! 08-01-2003, 05:12 AM You're right. But law is very circumstantial, and criminal law especially.
yes
and provocation is not recognized as a reasonable "circumstance" for an event like this to occur
slinkeh 08-01-2003, 05:12 AM if it was Terraforce some other 'cool' little kid at the LAN, and it had been some dude that hardly anyone knew that had layed the smack down, this would be 15 pages screaming for him to be locked up for 100 years.
Tofutti 08-01-2003, 05:13 AM HAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHHAH
fuck this is why i love you
uh. u scared me. no lie.
FireStorm! 08-01-2003, 05:14 AM uh. u scared me. no lie.
dont make me blush
now come back to bed and make love to me
Sojourn 08-01-2003, 05:15 AM yes
and provocation is not recognized as a reasonable "circumstance" for an event like this to occur
In the event of serious injury, you're right. Listen, FS.. as I've said repeatedly, I don't agree with what he did.. but assault and battery charges are just laughable to me right now, especially given that no one really knows what happened except that he hit this guy, or even if the kid has anything more than a couple of bruises.
Sojourn 08-01-2003, 05:15 AM if it was Terraforce some other 'cool' little kid at the LAN, and it had been some dude that hardly anyone knew that had layed the smack down, this would be 15 pages screaming for him to be locked up for 100 years.
Possibly.. but not from me.
Tofutti 08-01-2003, 05:16 AM dont make me blush
now come back to bed and make love to me
im about to go to sleep. but not wit u.
FireStorm! 08-01-2003, 05:19 AM In the event of serious injury, you're right. Listen, FS.. as I've said repeatedly, I don't agree with what he did.. but assault and battery charges are just laughable to me right now, especially given that no one really knows what happened except that he hit this guy, or even if the kid has anything more than a couple of bruises.
ok
you are right
we dont know all the facts
the point i am making is that sarcastick's actions were wrong, and i just want everyone to come to that understanding, if they havent already
[insert cliche saying]Just like it is not the rape victims fault for dressing pretty but the rapists fault for raping her.
It is sarcastick's fault (given he is the mature adult) for DOING WHATEVER HE DID to that LGBR (or whoever).
That's all I want people to f*cking agree upon, not that he was PROVOKED and it was OKAY because its FUNNY. excuse my capital letters
it is illegal and it IS considered assault and sarcastick could be taken to court (given that he did jump on the kid in anyway whatsoever, which is in question).
FireStorm! 08-01-2003, 05:20 AM (the above may or may not be warranted given no one knows anything about anything)
Crazy8 08-01-2003, 05:22 AM I'm going to have to go with "LGBR had it coming."
slinkeh 08-01-2003, 05:22 AM Firestorm should be a lawyer and wear one of those fucked up wigs
Breaker 08-01-2003, 05:24 AM suprised no-one has said this yet
but : Sar in 2
FireStorm! 08-01-2003, 05:25 AM I'm going to have to go with "LGBR had it coming."
Yeah, well then when a 10 year old says a joke about a 20 year old with his other friends of 10 year olds, and that 20 year old kicks all the 10 year olds asses then it would be okay, because those kids had it coming
STOP BEING STUPID
Breaker 08-01-2003, 05:26 AM LGBR ........... :hitit2:
FireStorm! 08-01-2003, 05:26 AM sarcastick has it coming when he gets raped in prison because he beat up a 15 year old. :lol:
slinkeh 08-01-2003, 05:28 AM [10:31] <ricko> hes a cuban bag of testosterone
Sojourn 08-01-2003, 05:33 AM ok
you are right
we dont know all the facts
the point i am making is that sarcastick's actions were wrong, and i just want everyone to come to that understanding, if they havent already
[insert cliche saying]Just like it is not the rape victims fault for dressing pretty but the rapists fault for raping her.
It is sarcastick's fault (given he is the mature adult) for DOING WHATEVER HE DID to that LGBR (or whoever).
That's all I want people to f*cking agree upon, not that he was PROVOKED and it was OKAY because its FUNNY. excuse my capital letters
it is illegal and it IS considered assault and sarcastick could be taken to court (given that he did jump on the kid in anyway whatsoever, which is in question).
Let me make this clear right now. I think Rob's actions were wrong, if he did in fact attack this kid. There is no doubt that there are better ways to handle that kind of situation.
Now, here's where I don't agree with you.. if LGBR was being the antagonist, he is not just some victim. If he did try to provoke Rob, it was not only immature, it was ridiculously lacking in any kind of common sense. I am not saying that it is justification, by any stretch of the imagination.. but I can not sit here and listen to people act like LGBR is some rape victim. That's just stupid. There's no excuse for such stupid behavior, I don't care if he is 15.
I'm not going to get dragged further into this regarding charges of assault. But it really bugs the shit out of me that people are jumping to all these conclusions, and all we have is secondhand information. Doesn't it sound a little funny to you that the information really went to great lengths to imply that Rob just beat the crap out of this kid? He "busts his melon" and is "fixing to die" just sounds like a serious beating. Except, the police show up, and let Rob off with a warning? The police may be lax at times, but if a kid nearly dies they are not just going to say "Hey.. don't do that again."
DeadlyRabbit 08-01-2003, 05:33 AM :heart: Sarcastick
Maybe LGBR will learn not to piss people off, and that some people won't just walk away from a situation.
FireStorm! 08-01-2003, 05:38 AM Let me make this clear right now. I think Rob's actions were wrong, if he did in fact attack this kid. There is no doubt that there are better ways to handle that kind of situation.
Now, here's where I don't agree with you.. if LGBR was being the antagonist, he is not just some victim. If he did try to provoke Rob, it was not only immature, it was ridiculously lacking in any kind of common sense. I am not saying that it is justification, by any stretch of the imagination.. but I can not sit here and listen to people act like LGBR is some rape victim. That's just stupid. There's no excuse for such stupid behavior, I don't care if he is 15.
I'm not going to get dragged further into this regarding charges of assault. But it really bugs the shit out of me that people are jumping to all these conclusions, and all we have is secondhand information. Doesn't it sound a little funny to you that the information really went to great lengths to imply that Rob just beat the crap out of this kid? He "busts his melon" and is "fixing to die" just sounds like a serious beating. Except, the police show up, and let Rob off with a warning? The police may be lax at times, but if a kid nearly dies they are not just going to say "Hey.. don't do that again."
ok
we are getting somewhere now. the argument i have made throughout the entirety of this thread is given the information suicidetaxi posted - that is all we have. so that's why i said "we may as well not know anything", therefore this whole argument i am making could be just for the heck of it ( and it is ).
at least we agree that the actions rob (SUPPOSEDLY) took were wrong, and of course, illegal. (obviously)
was LGBR being stupid, fuck yes, that warrants nothing. there are a lot of stupid people out there. but we cant just start beating them up now can we..
clearly LGBR is 15 and not 5 years old and needs to learn some manners/responsibility himself. did he have it coming? no, not from a 25~ year old.
maybe from a kid his age in a school fight.
maybe LGBR needs some spankings from his parents
(not that i condone spanking)
and now i am done.
bye.
fun argument ( though this side is clearly easier to argue )
Crazy8 08-01-2003, 05:39 AM Yeah, well then when a 10 year old says a joke about a 20 year old with his other friends of 10 year olds, and that 20 year old kicks all the 10 year olds asses then it would be okay, because those kids had it coming
STOP BEING STUPID
Except that's not even remotely what happened, and if that did happen I would have a radically different appraisal of the situation.
STOP BEING STUPID
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