Yeah, let's wait to pass judgement on the troop surge

Stilgar

Veteran XX
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/15/world/middleeast/15cnd-iraq.html?hp

Death Toll in Iraq Bombings Rises to 250
Mohammed Ibrahim/Associated Press
A body being removed from the rubble left by the multiple truck bombs in Qahtaniya, Iraq.

By JAMES GLANZ
Published: August 15, 2007
BAGHDAD, Aug. 15 — The toll in a horrific quadruple bombing in an area of mud and stone houses in the remote northern desert on Tuesday evening reached 250 dead and 350 wounded, several local officials said today, making it the single deadliest coordinated attack since the American-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

What a horrific waste of lives and billions of MY FUCKING TAX DOLLARS.
If nothing else sticks as a Bush legacy it will be the initial failure of the father in Iraq and the subsequent failings of the son everywhere else.
 
Yeah guys you're right let's just get out so the terrorists can have a free country to overrun. Woohoo great idea :rolleyes:
 
Hmm. I'm still going to place primary blame for that on the guys that loaded trucks with bombs. Not that it isnt retarded for us to still be there, but hey there it is.
 
You'd think with ~500,000 troops (US and Iraqi) in Baghdad alone...

What a sham this whole surge, and the war for that matter, is.

The Real Reason Why Fewer U.S. Soldiers Are Dying in Iraq

By Robert Parry, Consortium News. Posted August 13, 2007.

Mindful of the political fallout from the rising American death toll in Iraq, the U.S. military has pulled back from widespread use of aggressive tactics with ground troops this summer.

The number of U.S. military fatalities declined to 80 in July after three months of a death toll in the triple digits (104 in April, 126 in May, and 101 in June). The lower death toll has been cited by some U.S. commanders in Iraq and Bush administration supporters in Washington as a sign that President George W. Bush's "surge" of U.S. troops is working.

But the sources told me that the lower death toll reflects not some impending victory but just a slowdown in the U.S. ground offensive after the early phases of the surge, which poured more than 20,000 additional troops into Iraq. The sources cited a variety of factors contributing to the decline in U.S. casualties.

One U.S. military source said the American troops have not pushed as far from their forward operating bases as the U.S. news media has been led to believe. When Bush unveiled the surge, a key goal was to get American forces out of their secure bases and into small police outposts in Iraqi neighborhoods.

The exposure of U.S. troops to the additional hazard of such front-line assignments was a factor in the upswing of American deaths in the early months of the surge. This forward positioning also presented risks for U.S. logistical personnel who had to brave roadside bombs and ambushes to supply these isolated units.

Further complicating those assignments was the brutal summer heat -- reaching temperatures of 130 degrees -- at a time when electricity in many Iraqi neighborhoods is spotty at best. By slowing or postponing these deployments, the dangers to the troops -- not to mention their discomfort -- were reduced.

Still, this source said the decline in violent incidents involving U.S. troops could be viewed as a combination of two factors -- a drop-off in activity by the Iraqi insurgency as well as a pull-back by the Americans.

July heat

It's also possible that the brutal heat has a lot to do with the slower pace of the fighting, by discouraging operations by both guerrillas and U.S. troops. Since the war began, July has been one of the least deadly months for U.S. troops.

Indeed, compared to earlier July casualty reports, the July 2007 death toll of 80 was the worst of the war for U.S. troops. In July 2003, 48 American soldiers died; in July 2004, the death toll was 54; in July 2005, it was 54; in July 2006, it was 43.

U.S. military officials and Bush administration war supporters, however, have cited the decline in American deaths this July -- compared with the previous three months -- as one of several positive indicators that Bush's surge strategy is making progress.
 
dude they have a "US Military source"

private muhammed ali osama shirab probably working in Kentucky somewhere fixing sprockets
 
Just a side note...

We can't account for billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of weapons, among other things...where you suppose much of that might have ended up?
 
ricko make sure you WAIT before passing judgement

edit: i'm going to bed now but Gaz just dropped this old classic

[11:08] <ricko> cum is dribbling from my fist onto the keyboard as we speak

nn :sunny:
 
ye who passes judgment shall ye .. something something .. I FORGET the way it goes but basically THE POINT IS .. america :<< WHAT ARE YOU DOING??? :<<<
 
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