Monday - 5 years since 9/11

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How time flys. And we still haven't cought OBL. (well, at least we haven't officially).

Do you really feel more secure now than you did 5 years ago? Do you think all these secret illegal government programs to 'make us more secure' really help?
 
I really do sit and wonder why we have not had a large scale attack again. Not even as huge as 9/11, but something that would be easier to pull off. I don't get why we are not faced with the day to day violence places like Israel have. Does our physical location keep us safer or is the gov't really doing anything?

I mean people forget we did have the anthrax scare, and those snipers down in the Va/DC area. But still, those were pretty minor.
 
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Kerosene31 said:
I really do sit and wonder why we have not had a large scale attack again. Not even as huge as 9/11, but something that would be easier to pull off. I don't get why we are not faced with the day to day violence places like Israel have. Does our physical location keep us safer or is the gov't really doing anything?

I mean people forget we did have the anthrax scare, and those snipers down in the Va/DC area. But still, those were pretty minor.
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we are surrounded by water, the groups that want to attack dont have a large enough presence and support to launch constant attacks in north america
 
I think we are more secure yes, however I think we are securing all the airline shit while terrorists are thinking of a completely different angle. They got us with planes etc; why try again? I wouldnt.

I also think we are in trouble because when the Gov says "we can afford to pump money to secure this area/idea but we cant afford money to secure this other security hole/idea"

Safety is safety how can you fund one security hole and not another?

So in some respects yes, in other respects no.
 
Kerosene31 said:
I really do sit and wonder why we have not had a large scale attack again. Not even as huge as 9/11, but something that would be easier to pull off. I don't get why we are not faced with the day to day violence places like Israel have. Does our physical location keep us safer or is the gov't really doing anything?

I mean people forget we did have the anthrax scare, and those snipers down in the Va/DC area. But still, those were pretty minor.
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I think most terrorist truly fear americas stance on terrorism. It wont serve your cause to have your jihad only make the west occupy your country, dismantle your government and occupy your comrades with a war against your countrymen.
 
To think about the origins of hip hop in this culture and also about homeland security is to see that there are at the very least two worlds in America. One of the well-to-do and the struggling. For if ever there was the absence of homeland security it is seen in the gritty roots of hip hop. For the music arises from a generation that feels with some justice that they have been betrayed by those who came before them.

That they are at best tolerated in schools, feared on the streets, and almost inevitably destined for the hell holes of prison. They grew up hungry, hated and unloved. And this is the psychic fuel that seems to generate the anger that seems endemic in much of the music and poetry. One senses very little hope above the personal goals of wealth and the climb above the pit of poverty.

In the broader society the opposite is true, for here more than any place on earth wealth is more wide spread and so bountiful. What passes for the middle class in America could pass for the upper class in most of the rest of the world. Their very opulence and relative wealth makes the insecure. And homeland security is a governmental phrase that is as oxymoronic, as crazy as saying military intelligence, or the U.S Department of Justice. They're just words that have very little relationship to reality. And do you feel safer now? Do you think you will anytime soon? Do you think duct tape and Kleenex and color codes will make you safer? From Death row this is Mumia Abu Jamal
 
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