Remember that Chaplain in Guantanamo?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/25/guantanamo.chaplain/index.html

if you poke around several news sources and read carefully, you'll get the truth.

turns out we just released him, and he's going to go back to being a chaplain but in south carolina.

the case about being a spy/traitor was totally BS.

so, they are now charging him with ADULTRY and having pr0n on his computer.

w00t

great knowing that national security is so effective and the news is so good at making us think we know what we're doing.

we just screwed over one of the best islamic chaplains in the military.... (how else would he have been trusted to be there in the first place)... and ruined his life.

and then stole his pr0n

typical of the US military. They probably just didn't like the guy, so they decided to find a reason to get rid of him (he must have been to nice to the arabs)

orbital 123 said:

typical of the US military. They probably just didn't like the guy, so they decided to find a reason to get rid of him (he must have been to nice to the arabs)

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Typical orbital troll. I'd say things like that as well if my nation were commiting crimes against humanity and allowing genocide for oil. I'm glad I don't live in Canada!

Shut the fuck up.

He was being held for suspicion of espionage and aiding the enemy.

Military officials have said Yee took classified material to his home and wrongfully transported classified material without the proper security containers or covers. That may not make him a spy, but it certainly makes him a dumb mother fucker. For doing the above he has been charged with 2 counts of failing to obey general orders.

The Army is now charging him with four additional counts, including adultery, making false statements and using a government computer to view and store pornography.

The only way he could be charged with adultery is if he has incriminating evidence on his computer that could prove that he is cheating on his wife. Possibly saved E-mails or letters to a lover? Yes, adultery is a punishable offense according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

A false official statement means that he was caught in a lie when being questioned by federal investigators, which is a felony offense. Usually it means that he wrote and signed an official statement (under oath), then later retracted an important part of that statement.

As far a pornography goes... it's illegal to view porn on government computers. I was in the military as a computer specialist. I spent 6 months in Kuwait running a LAN. A good deal of the work I did there was monitoring web traffic and blocking IPs to pornography sites from the router. Lots of guys were viewing porn. Nobody got busted. There's no way to know if this guy had a library of porn on his computer or just a few random images in the temporary internet files. Either way it's still illegal. Now, most times nobody will give a shit. But when somebody is under investigation, you hit him with everything in the book.

This guy is NOT going back to work like nothing happened. He isn't simply being transfered to a new post. Innocent until proven guilty, still applies in the military. Evidently he isn't deemed a flight risk, or they would have continued holding him in the brig in pre-trial confinement.

ZenTseTse said:

we just screwed over one of the best islamic chaplains in the military.... (how else would he have been trusted to be there in the first place)

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After reading that.... God, just shut up.

feel better now?

it was BS.

had zero to do with national security. in fact, it is BAD for national security cuz these asshats are undermining the credibility of our leadership, judicial system and our military institutions.

if you don't grasp that, well damn... move to friggin france.

continue flaming...

Captain, Zen, you both made excellent points. Don't belittle that with name calling.

ZenTseTse said:

feel better now?

it was BS.

had zero to do with national security. in fact, it is BAD for national security cuz these asshats are undermining the credibility of our leadership, judicial system and our military institutions.

if you don't grasp that, well damn... move to friggin france.

continue flaming...

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1. Failing to follow proper procedures in regard to classified documents isn't exactly "zero to do with national security." The news media, not the military, are the folks to blame for blowing it up into a espionage scandal. All the military has ever said is that he was under investigation.

2. How is it bad for national security for us to actively stop people from leaking classified information to our enemies? How does it undermine the credibility of our leadership, judicial system and military institutions? There has been no leadership, judical, or military blunder made in this case.

Hey cap, face it though he is gunna get burned regardless.
Article 134. "the catch all"?
I had 6 NJP's (2 of wich i beat)
And a summary CM that i only got 45 and 45 for.

The thing is one of my Njp's was crap and they burned me even with witnesses on my side and documentations. And nothing but the words from a half wit 20 year staff sargeanton got me 7 and 7.

In the end if they want to burn you they can and you really cant beat the system.

ohh BTW i did my 4 and got an Honorable. And even with my record i got an RE-1 .

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1. Failing to follow proper procedures in regard to classified documents isn't exactly "zero to do with national security." The news media, not the military, are the folks to blame for blowing it up into a espionage scandal. All the military has ever said is that he was under investigation.

2. How is it bad for national security for us to actively stop people from leaking classified information to our enemies? How does it undermine the credibility of our leadership, judicial system and military institutions? There has been no leadership, judical, or military blunder made in this case.

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i come from a family of prison administrators, military types and cops. i say that to kinda place my criticism in context.

it was BS.

they were watching some other guy and hungry for a story. this chaplain was doing his job, and apparently was doign it well.

they were on a witch hunt down there...

he didnt leak a damn thing. this is just 1 example of the BS "crises" they come up with, toss around in the news, and all it is doing is showing how utterly out of control they are...

it was a huge MILITARY, judicial and political blunder. if you don't see it, whatever.

first thing i can suggest rethinking is the role of these chaplains within intelligent/military prison situations. these guys are NOT just some goofballs off the street. there's a LOT more at stake here.

too many cooks & witch hunters, with very high stakes.

So you're trying to argue that he isn't guilty of mishandling classified documents?

Like i said in my above post. In the end if they want to burn you they will find a way

Article #134 always get you.

except they don't need to charge him with 134. There's plenty of other shit that he's guilty of (or I should say "accused of").

CaptainZero said:

There's plenty of other shit that he's guilty of (or I should say "accused of").

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Exactally my point about if they want to they will.

Im not argueing with you by no means. All the charges i ever had (except above mentioned) were my own damn fault. But this guy needs to get burned. my DUI is nothing compared to his charges.

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So you're trying to argue that he isn't guilty of mishandling classified documents?

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are you trying to suggest he did something illegal and against national security, and yet he was just RELEASED to continue practicing as a military chaplain?

they tossed in charges of adultery and pornography to cover their BS.

they DROPPED the real charges.

he is free and practicing his JOB again for a reason.

Yea, captainzero you need to shut the fuck up. The guy was charged and then released, meaning the charges were dropped because they were made up. Do you know what that means? It means everything was bullshit and somebodies life almost went down the drain for a news story.

Anything else you want to add fuckface?

ZenTseTse said:

are you trying to suggest he did something illegal and against national security, and yet he was just RELEASED to continue practicing as a military chaplain?

they tossed in charges of adultery and pornography to cover their BS.

they DROPPED the real charges.

he is free and practicing his JOB again for a reason.

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Monkey_b said:

Yea, captainzero you need to shut the fuck up. The guy was charged and then released, meaning the charges were dropped because they were made up. Do you know what that means? It means everything was bullshit and somebodies life almost went down the drain for a news story.

Anything else you want to add fuckface?

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No, douche-bags, the charges were NOT dropped. He was never charged for espionage you stupid whores. They released him, he will continue working, he doesn't get a paid vacation from the Army, while he waits for his court martial. The crimes he has commited do not warrant pre-trial confinement.

If you think that suspects don't stay out of prison while they are waiting for their court appearance, you're a bunch of ignorant mother fuckers.

cap bringing about the smack

I wish that monkey_b would be charged with treason and then executed.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, MONKEY_B!!!!

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No, douche-bags, the charges were NOT dropped. He was never charged for espionage you stupid whores. They released him, he will continue working, he doesn't get a paid vacation from the Army, while he waits for his court martial. The crimes he has commited do not warrant pre-trial confinement.

If you think that suspects don't stay out of prison while they are waiting for their court appearance, you're a bunch of ignorant mother fuckers.

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They have never served Cap. And they think they know how the "Office Hours" and the military "court Martials" work.



Here's an example of a court Martial's begining procedures:

Guy goes Awol for 30 days. Then comes back on his own and turns himself in. They immediately take him to the Brigg, where he waits a few days. He then has a Magistrit hearing, the Magistrit says "well he came back on his own, so we dont have to worry about him running away again" and then he is realeased back to his Battalion or Unit or whatever. There the Unit starts all the paper work for his trial. Untill like maybe a month later he has his trial. Then if they convict him he goes back to the brigg to serve his time.

kinda like bail so to speak.