El Mariachi
Veteran XV
Gun manufacturers could be sued for people using their firearms in a crime?
Same reason that some lady sued mcDonalds for coffee that was too hot - IT'S FUCKING AMERICAEl Mariachi said:Gun manufacturers could be sued for people using their firearms in a crime?
Reverend Zero said:Same reason that some lady sued mcDonalds for coffee that was too hot - IT'S FUCKING AMERICA
El Mariachi said:Well there's more to that story than you know of.
GigaFool said:Yeah she was a stupid bitch who put a cup of coffee (HEY MAYBE ITS COLD) between her legs, then drove, and spilled it all over her legs.
The more facts you hear in that story, the stupider the woman looks.
During discovery, McDonalds produced documents showing more than 700
claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some claims
involved third-degree burns substantially similar to Liebecks. This
history documented McDonalds' knowledge about the extent and nature of
this hazard.
McDonalds also said during discovery that, based on a consultants
advice, it held its coffee at between 180 and 190 degrees fahrenheit to
maintain optimum taste. He admitted that he had not evaluated the
safety ramifications at this temperature. Other establishments sell
coffee at substantially lower temperatures, and coffee served at home is
generally 135 to 140 degrees.
Further, McDonalds' quality assurance manager testified that the company
actively enforces a requirement that coffee be held in the pot at 185
degrees, plus or minus five degrees. He also testified that a burn
hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above,
and that McDonalds coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured
into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn
the mouth and throat. The quality assurance manager admitted that burns
would occur, but testified that McDonalds had no intention of reducing
the "holding temperature" of its coffee.
unless they distributed the weapons by illegal means...El Mariachi said:Gun manufacturers could be sued for people using their firearms in a crime?
Actually that exact same injury happened to thousands of others that year and McDonald's coffee was set at like 10,000 degrees so that no one could taste the shitty taste. Interestingly when the lady sued the cups were made safer and the amound of injuries decreased dramatically.GigaFool said:Yeah she was a stupid bitch who put a cup of coffee (HEY MAYBE ITS COLD) between her legs, then drove, and spilled it all over her legs.
The more facts you hear in that story, the stupider the woman looks.
Plaintiffs' expert, a scholar in thermodynamics applied to human skin
burns, testified that liquids, at 180 degrees, will cause a full
thickness burn to human skin in two to seven seconds. Other testimony
showed that as the temperature decreases toward 155 degrees, the extent
of the burn relative to that temperature decreases exponentially. Thus,
if Liebeck's spill had involved coffee at 155 degrees, the liquid would
have cooled and given her time to avoid a serious burn.
McDonalds asserted that customers buy coffee on their way to work or
home, intending to consume it there. However, the companys own research
showed that customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while
driving.
Uh she spilled the coffee on her while driving then sued because the cup didn't say "Warning, Hot!"El Mariachi said:Well there's more to that story than you know of.
Pagy said:unless they distributed the weapons by illegal means...
they should be charged
Reverend Zero said:Uh she spilled the coffee on her while driving then sued because the cup didn't say "Warning, Hot!"
How fucking idiotic do you have to be to not know Coffee is hot?
OK I know how to solve the gun problem. Put a warning label on the gun in big red letters that says "Warning, May Fire Lethal Projectiles"
in the end, no matter how stupid the woman was, the coffee was too hot. Rules were broken. Now the cash reward involved is retarded, but McD's was at faultGigaFool said:Yeah she was a stupid bitch who put a cup of coffee (HEY MAYBE ITS COLD) between her legs, then drove, and spilled it all over her legs.
The more facts you hear in that story, the stupider the woman looks.
I can't think of oneEl Mariachi said:Ok, good point. Firearms manufacturers are only allowed to sell to licensed dealers. But, let's say that all went hunky-dory. How is the manufacturer still to blame?
I dunno I think it's all bullshit.Pagy said:in the end, no matter how stupid the woman was, the coffee was too hot. Rules were broken. Now the cash reward involved is retarded, but McD's was at fault
GigaFool said:The fact is, what kind of fucking moron puts hot coffee between their legs, and then drives?
After receiving the order, the grandson pulled his car forward and
stopped momentarily so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her
coffee. (Critics of civil justice, who have pounced on this case, often
charge that Liebeck was driving the car or that the vehicle was in
motion when she spilled the coffee; neither is true.) Liebeck placed
the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the plastic lid from
the cup. As she removed the lid, the entire contents of the cup spilled
into her lap.
The jury awarded Liebeck $200,000 in compensatory damages. This amount
was reduced to $160,000 because the jury found Liebeck 20 percent at
fault in the spill.